I nominate myself.
As not being a CA-ian, I will take your word for the situation for domestic workers. I was not aware that they were not included in the general employment laws currently in effect. Certainly not an issue I am stirred about - just seemed stupid and overreaching upon initial viewing. I’ve been corrected - ignorance fought!
Will it include all the times DT says it and everyone ignores him?
If we on the left tried to distance ourselves from DT every time he said something bizarre we wouldn’t have any time to characterize the right as racist.
The irony here is just amazing.
An actress that is deemed “left wing” states that
Bolding mine. She is talking about SOME of the Republicans, and ELEMENTS within the party.
As a rebuttal, we are treated to the antics of Starving Artist, who deems that
Not some of the left. No. All of them. Unanimously. Even the quoted actress did not do this. She portrayed SOME of them supporting the ELEMENTS within the party.
And** Starving Artist** does not even see this. It’s freakin’ hilarious!
Yeah, I used to think it was funny too, until I realized he isn’t kidding.
I must say it’s heartening to see so many - well, a scarce few anyway - of the Straight Dope’s finest so utterly anxious to proclaim that it’s only ‘some’ Republicans who are racist. Why, this makes Republicans virtually no different than Democrats in this regard as I know damn well there are Democrats who are racist as I know a few myself. Maybe we could get this acknowledgement made into a sticky and posted at the top of each forum so everyone will be sure, when tempted to make their scurrilous racist accusations toward Republicans, that they take pains to point out that it’s only some Republicans who qualify and they all aren’t like that.
Myself, I’m thinking there’ll be snowball fights in Jerusalem before that happens. 
I have two comments. One: I think when Democrats consider this question, they forget, or just don’t know about, all of the reflexive Democrat-voting racists, such as were profiled during the bitter primary battle in Pennsylvania between Obama and Clinton.
Two: even counting these examples, I agree that more racists vote Republican than vote Democratic.
Starkers:
Well, gee, if you really thought there was some sort of bias against you here on the Boards, you should have said something! Don’t stifle it, keep it bottled up inside, your *chi *will get constipated!
No. But I am sure you can not understand that is where they live. Where would you think a person who hates blacks would go, to the party who the top guy is black?
They have been welcomed in the Repub Party for decades.
Careful. By that logic, Cain winning the nomination would be prima facie evidence that the Republican Party isn’t racist.
I think we should demand that they prove it by nominating him.
I agree on both counts. And I would agree that there are probably more racists who are Rebublican than are Democrat. However I think the vast majority of both parties are not racist to any appreciable degee, and that it’s ignorant or self-servingly dishonest for the left to continue to portray Republicans as racists, especially in light of the way people such as Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice and Herman Cain have been welcomed by Republicans nationwide. And I’m confident, as I said before, that as more and more blacks find that they are wecome in Republican politics after all and become elected to office themselves, the left is going to look more and more ridiculous in claiming that the Republicans are racist, as Garofolo does now in claiming that Republican supporters of Herman Cain are racist.
How can they not? Unless they are multiple personalities.
It doesn’t mean anything when blacks get elected to high leadership in the republican party. They get there because they are willing to be part of the machine that disenfranchises and hurts other minorities, so that makes them “okay”, the same way the Sea Monkeys creator is a jew who is welcome in white power groups because he supports their activities financially and by speaking. It also gives them a tactical shield against accusations about their actual racist agenda because they can point to a few minority true-believers who make up a tiny, tiny fraction of their power structure. So it only makes sense to have a few blacks and minorities on hand, people like you will buy into the tokens as proof that they are not a racist organization.
All hate groups will make exceptions for those that support them, it isn’t a sign that they aren’t hate groups. “Not racist but #1 with racists” is about right.
So the Republican party is a hate group now?
Where are all the hair splitters eagerly pointing out that only “some” Republicans are haters?
The fact is that Republicans welcome anyone, black, Hispanic, female, whatever as long as they hold Conservative values. Blacks and other minorities and women are learning more and more that they’ve been sold a bill of goods by the left and can indeed enter Republican politics and be elected to positions of power, and the more who learn this the more there will be, and the more minority and female voters we’ll have, and the more and more you guys will standing on the sidelines, stamping your feet your feet and wailing “But guys, they hate you!”
The whole party? No. But by their works shall ye know them.
Given the time, I’m guessing most of them were asleep. But since you asked so nicely, I’ll say it: only some Republicans are haters. Happy?
Of course! And gays are welcome as long as they hold the Conservative value of pretending they’re not. Atheists are welcome as long as they’re willing to praise God. Hispanics are welcome as long as they’re willing to show their papers on demand. It’s a big tent kind of party. Very friendly folk.
I wil acknowledge that gays and athiests are currently less welcome in the Republican party. But neither of those have to do with race, which was the subject under discussion. And yes, Hispanic who are here legally or who were born here are perfectly welcome in the Republican party. If you want to contend that Republicans are less accepting of people who have knowingly broken the law in order to be here, then you are not talking about race but politics, and there’s nothing whatever wrong in expecting people to abide by the law…a consideration that seems to be considerably stronger to the right than to the left. I’ve always been amazed at the liberal propensity to break the law or champion those who do while at the same time casting scurrilous aspersions upon the character of those who object.
If you oversimplify one direction, I can do so in the other.
Martin Luther King, Jr.'s peaceful protest against segregation violated Alabama law and he was arrested. Eugene “Bull” Connor, Ku Klux Klan member and hateful Alabama law enforcement official, arrested Senator Glen H. Taylor, King, and others. Which of these two do you have more respect for, Starving Artist ?
Yes, this example can be considered an aberration. Nevertheless, right-wingers’ fascination with “law and order” is another example of their closedmindedness.
And yet the GOP strategy has often been conspicuous in its focus on targetting the workers rather than the businesses which employ them, despite the fact that if the demand for illegal workers were reduced the workers wouldn’t come in the first place. The result is the perception that there is one law for the rich white people and another for the poor brown people. I’m sure somebody somewhere must be looking into it but it never makes the media. Must be that liberal bias.
There is much irony in the situation in that the GOP has, in its excoriation of those who come here for work, simultaneously hurt those who are actually following conservative ideals of working hard to better one’s lot in life without relying on the government and alienated the American Hispanic community which is culturally quite socially conservative in nature. Had the party, which in general is very good at managing its message, not chosen such a heavyhanded approach to the immigration issue, it might very well have wooed a sizable portion of the Hispanic vote. But when people like Bush are denounced for trying to find a more realistic solution to a complicated problem than just “build a big wall and ask any Hispanic-looking person within 400 miles of the border for proof of citizenship” it just isn’t going to happen.