Settle a bet!
Indy’s Dad drank from the Holy Grail. Is he immortal now? Or because he was dying when he drank from it kinda cancel that out?
Was this ever addressed? Has anybody else wondered about this?
And does the Knight who was guarding it get to leave now? I mean, what’s he got to do now? Indy, as usual, just wrecks the joint! That Grail is gone, Baby!
Indy drank it too, didn’t he? I thought the power of the grail stopped working beyond the seal. So the immortality effect would cease.
There was never any implication, at least in the movie, that drinking from the Grail conferred lasting immortality. I thought it was fairly well established that it was a day to day (okay, they didn’t specify the exact periodicity) kind of thing, whereby so long as one drank from it regularly (the last of the three brothers—the one we see at the end) one lived. But as soon as one stopped, one was subject to eventual death (the two brothers who left, including the one whose tomb was opened in Italy).
So, no. Neither Jones is immortal, except in our collective imagination as great icons of fiction. :rolleyes:
I thought there was. When the bad guy says, “Everlasting life… blah, blah”.
But your answer seems legit.
Right, “everlasting life” for so long as one drank from the Grail. He didn’t say that last bit, but the story of the three brothers makes it clear it’s not “permanent” everlasting life.
Did Pop drink from the grail? It’s been a long time, but I only remember that Indy poured water from the grail onto his wound and it healed.
As for the old guardian, well, the grail is gone and there’s nothing left to guard, and I expect he crumbled into dust (off screen) as the place fell apart. His soul, however, will be rewarded for his rectitude and service.
eta: well, I looked it up after I posted rather than before, and I guess Pop did also drink from it.
That’s how I remember it. Any of them could have immortality if they stayed inside the boundaries of the seal. Well, before the entire place went to pieces, that is. But even if that hadn’t happened, they would have to stay in the friendly confines of the temple to keep their immortality.
You should maybe write a sequel — where the guy who saw, first-hand, the value of Indiana-Jones-style heroics, gets his youth restored and so by the ‘60s looks like a handsome man of action who wryly grins about not needing medical help.
You could maybe call it Doctor No.
What’s the deal with all those other grails? Did the knight go on shopping trips occasionally and collect them, like souvenir spoons?
Anyway, Jones senior clearly didn’t get immortality because by the next movie, he was dead.
What I wonder is what happens after the ending. Is the grail still stuck down below ground or does the knight retrieve it and continue his long, lonely vigil?
Indiana Jones: Worst Archeologist EVER! Absolutely trashed every place he went to. Thank God he never went to Machu Picchu. He would have leveled it!
“Look, I keep telling you this: I didn’t trash the place, all the traps I set off trashed the place!”
What I want to know is what the knight on vigil ate for the last 700 years. Is the Grail also a cornucopia? For that matter, what goes in must also come out. Who has been emptying his latrine all these centuries? Or buying all those candles?
Eh, I mean… it’s all a lesser miracle than the whole thing with the Grail, so I put all that into the category of “suspension of disbelief” or “plausible enough relative to other fantastical elements.”
He could subsist on mana from heaven, and the candles could be lit by the Holy Spirit for all I care. I don’t need an explanation as I’ve already accepted that the True Gail confers everlasting life (within certain conditions) while any of the other cups not only exists, but when used to drink the water in the fountain will age one to ash in a matter of seconds.
But, while we’re unsuspending disbelief, I’ve always wondered how all those traps (not just in Last Crusade, but in every other adventure) manage to stay in good working order after so many hundreds of years. Real machines don’t work like that. They need to be maintained.
(Coffee spray onto the monitor. Thank you)
My recollection is:
I think that the false Grails were brought in, not by the knight, but by the Nazis (and by whatever other visitors there were in the millennia before them). They expected to see a fancy bejeweled cup, so that’s what was there. Impossible? Well, of course. Or rather, miraculous.
I dunno miraculous, it’s just what happens when you have a take-a-grail, leave-a-grail policy.
I always assumed the knights collected the false Grails first. Any time they came across what someone said was the Holy Grail, they’d take it, do whatever they did to evaluate it, and toss it in a sack or something until they found the real one.
How does that work? People show up looking for the grail with the grail (or so they believe) already in hand?
They weren’t looking for a fountain to fill the grail, but for the actual grail itself.
Or do you mean to say that the false grails (and not always the same false grails?) were created as a test, particular to the observer, through supernatural means. A test just for you.
I mean, clearly they were there as a test, and perhaps they were accumulated from other false seekers, but I don’t think they had to be different for each contestant in “The Price is Life.”
ETA:
As in they (the three brothers) found collected them on their journey? That’s plausible…
More like that, though not necessarily individualized. There are, after all, a large number of false grails. Every insincere or faithless seeker would have some (incorrect) notion of what the Grail would be like, and every one of those false notions was represented among the decoys we saw. A different false seeker would have also said “it’s obviously this one, the most beautiful”, but would have been saying that of a different cup.