Let’s keep this short. This thread is intended as an ongoing repository of stupid, authoritarian SJW bullshit. This has been a long time coming, but for me the last straw was this:
Professor Jordan Peterson, known for what some believe to be a controversial stand on Canadian discrimination laws (particularly as they pertain to invented gender pronouns) was invited to speak at McMaster University, Ontario. This was the reception he got.
Can we please have one week, just one fucking week, without an invited speaker being shouted down by a bunch of holier-than-thou SJW cunts who think they have more of a right to speak than anyone else? Please?
Feel free to share your own examples of SJW bullshit.
I don’t think you’ll find a lot of left-wing members here who will defend shouting down right-wing speakers on college campuses.
Even anarcho-syndicalist Roosevelt New Deal nigger-loving Stalinist Wobblies like me prefer reasoned discourse, followed by throwing rotting produce and loud laughter.
That’s a bit like saying “I’ve always wondered why the People’s Democratic Republic of North Korea is so unpopular: Who on Earth could possibly hate people and democracy?”
Except North Korea picked that name for themselves. I never met anyone who identifies as a Social Justice Warrior. It’s a made up term, that truly makes no sense as an insult.
There are plenty of people who self-identify as Social Justice Warriors. The term wasn’t always perjorative, y’know. It just became that way because of, well, this shit.
My favorite professor at college made a point of bring speakers to campus every semester that would give us “alternative” points of view. I think that is in the highest tradition of academia. If he invited David Duke or Donald Trump, however, that’s a step too far. I wouldn’t shout down the speaker, but I would protest against the invitation.
When/where I went to school, this shit would get you arrested.
(That’s not a hypothetical. Ann Coulter spoke on campus, and city police–not campus rent-a-cop types, but the actual city police–were on hand to prevent this. In the end, despite a majority of the audience going mainly to watch things implode, only one guy decided to be “cute”. He was, of course, removed.)
Why would I as a liberal have a problem with people being shouted down? Shouting people down is still freedom of speech. Freedom of speech means I have the right to voice my displeasure in what you are saying, even as you are saying it. I have the right to use my words to try and stop you from speaking.
And, no, this is not the “heckler’s veto.” That is the concept that a government entity shuts down speech due to the possibility of violence. It has nothing to do with the common concept of a “heckler.”
Sure, you have the right to kick someone out of a private venue for disrupting the event. So these people can be told they have to leave, and, if they stay, they become trespassers. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t have the right to say what they said or do what they did.
I’ll also point out you have not produced any indication that these people are “SJWs.” In fact you haven’t defined what you mean by the term. If it just means people on the left practicing their free speech rights to protest, then it’s a crappy term.
I may not agree with these people, but I will continue to support their right to protest–at least as long as they are following the law when doing so.
Because it’s being a jackass. And “freedom of speech” doesn’t mean what you think it means.
I usually try to differentiate between SJWs and social justice activists. The latter are people like Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, etc. Whereas SJWs are more people who whine and yell DISCRIMINATION!!! when anyone disagrees with them in the slightest. (Most of their so-called “injustices” are usually just First World Problems)
As a human being who, presumably, wants to be educated, rather than live your life in an echo-chamber of your own beliefs? I feel like that answer is obvious.
Actually, it is, constitutionally, though it means that people who disagree with the shouters-down have the right to call them mean names. It’s all part of the fun of the First Amendment.
Yes, it is, for anything more than a strong disagreement.
Oh, no, it is. Our Constitution is a surprisingly simple document, “do this, don’t do that.” The fun comes from defining “this” v. “that.” Kid, I was raised in a family of lawyers. Nothing in my life has EVER been simple.
