Stupid Social Justice Warrior Bullshit O' the Day.

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But the “inquiry” I was initially referring to was simply the scenario posited by Martini Enfield of one American asking another where they come from.

Sure, something like that (although you’ve got it exactly backwards: I think you’re an idiot for worrying about something that’s completely not worth worrying about).

That doesn’t mean I’m trying set your priorities for you. Christ, grow some thicker skin.

People telling you that you’re an idiot for yelling about a non-existent “SJW” phenomenon is not the same as trying to tell you what your priorities should be.

Since SJWs do not exist as anything but a pejorative for people who care about things you think are trivial, there can be no SJW Bullshit of the Day.

Trying to extend the word to mean “People who argue with me and try to change my opinions” only makes things worse. It would make you an SJW, too.

SJW is in fact used as a self-description. I have a couple FB friends who use that term as a self-identifier.

Sure. Trace the history, though, and it goes something like this:

  1. Two or three decades ago, it was vanishingly rare.
  2. Six or seven years ago, a bunch of trolls on 4chan and reddit started using it as an insult against progressive activists. They would TOTALLY call you a SJW, by the way.
  3. Gamergate erupted, and the term entered general awareness, such that it’s even found in some dictionaries as a pejorative.
  4. Some folk targeted by the term were like, “WTF, this is a stupid insult,” and started self-identifying as such as a fuck you to the 4chan trolls.

Their self-identification is in response to its pejorative status and in no way negates the main pejorative usage.

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I don’t disagree with any of this. Thank you.

My entire point in posting what I did was to refute the idea that it doesn’t exist other than as a perjorative. I did not mean to suggest that it negated the main negative usage.

Exactly. If you ask an Asian person where they’re from and they say “Melbourne”, then saying “No, where are you really from?” is racist - as Fretful Porpentine notes.

I don’t sound Australian and people ask me where I’m from all the time - I tell them “Brisbane, but I was born in New Zealand”. It’s not a racist or “otherist” question. It’s patently obvious I wasn’t born in Australia (or if I was, I’ve spent a lot of time overseas) and the enquiries are always part of a friendly “getting to know you” conversation.

In fact, I’ve had people express surprise that I’m from New Zealand because I’m not Maori - even in Australia, which has a huge New Zealander population. It’s bemusing but definitely not deliberately offensive or moving into Actually Racist territory.

From one of your links, about how to handle Bioware’s pernicious SJW attacks on them:

This is precisely the sort of naive stupid bullshit that this thread is mocking, except it’s from rightwingers instead of leftists. What clever acronym, cribbed maybe from Maoist vanguardists, would you like to adopt to mock this dude?

I don’t see how that’s racist. People like to know that sort of trivia. Are your ancestors French? German? Italian? There are a zillion cultures and ethnicities all over Asia, why would someone feel uncomfortable asking or answering that?

I could see that would be uncomfortable for an African American, who might not know their ancestry. But an Asian? Why? Is there something to be ashamed of?

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Ya know, an enterprising lazy person who wanted to start the next “Omnibus:” or “Stupid xxx of the day” thread could do worse than to just start a “Stupid Culture Warrior Bullshit O’ the Day” thread and do nothing but just crosspost the fine specimens from here.

Despite the wide eyed innocence, I have to wonder if you actually believe that any white person is asked “where are you REALLY from” as a way to ask about ethnicity. Nor do I believe that white people in general are as easily assumed to be immigrants as non white people. I wonder why that is.

To make it flat out: the question is asked 99.9% of the time as an assumption that the person you’re speaking to is an immigrant, and thus cannot be a “real” American, solely based on their skin color. Therefore, it at the very least reflects racist assumptions.

Exactly - there’s a difference between “So, where were your family from before they came to Australia?” and “Where are you REALLY from?”

The former acknowledges the other person is an Australian but expresses interest in their cultural background, the latter implies they’re not a True Blue Australian™.

And meanwhile, how real is this PC parade? How many cases are there? People still act like “trigger warnings” are this big, awful thing (without ever trying to understand what they are or what purpose they serve, mind you), and it turns out that only 1.8% of institutions have any actual policy on them, and only about half of college professors surveyed have ever used them. Few even tried to understand what “safe space” meant before turning it into a stupid punchline on South Park. And suddenly there’s this massive anti-PC backlash based on… what, exactly? What are the widespread, systemic crimes of the “PC movement”? Is that even a thing? Does that even make the slightest bit of sense?

It fucking doesn’t. The New York Times is probably right, but man, that’s what I call fragility. The response to a few isolated incidents of no real import is a social movement that decries even the slightest threat (even something like a story not having a white male protagonist) as this horrible thing. What the fuck?

Wow, sounds like you’re saying that if someone has beliefs you don’t agree with, rather than engage in garbage hysterics that just insult them with dumb labels, you ought to engage them in serious conversation. Interesting point!

Possibly retarded.

Definitely retarded.

And racist.

So you don’t know what you’re talking about?

Being uninformed isn’t something to be proud of, you know.

You can start to fix your problem, though, by acknowledging the problem with ableist language and refraining from using it in the future.

Uninformed? Claiming only whites can be racist is racist.

Ableist? For using retarded to mean stupid? Well then any negative word that applies to one’s mental ability such as uniformed, stupid, dumb, ignorant, are ableist as well.

I don’t much like “ableist” either. People who lack a decent regard for the misfortunes of others simply lack respectful empathy, that there go you or I. They neither need nor deserve a special nomination, it is not an ideology, it is an emptiness.