Folks like Budget Player Cadet who advocate violence for merely speaking contribute to the environment where people are assaulted by anarchists for exercising free speech. Trump supporter smashed in the head with U-Lock by masked Antifa Thug in Berkeley - YouTube
I note DerekMichaels is banned for advocating violence on people who he disagreed with. I wonder if BPC will be sanctioned for “jokingly” wishing death on others.
The point of having them speak is twofold:
Now when did I do that? :rolleyes: Please, by all means, let’s see the quote.
Hey, I’ll make it easier for you to report me.
If I saw a member of the Schutzstaffel back in '43, and I had a gun, and I knew I would get away with it, I’d cap the fucker.
There, advocating violence on people I disagree with - specifically: nazis. I welcome you to report me. 
That’s silly. Students are exposed to vile opinions all the damned time. There can be places that try not to emulate the internet.
These two posts by you are less than 8 hours apart. That’s either some mighty willful ignorance, or you might want to consider seeing a doctor about possible memory loss.
It’s pretty hard to read this as anything other than you advocating violence and/or death against Milo. I think it’s the italics that really sell it. You really sound like you want to watch him burn.
OTOH, I think Octopus is over reacting, as I don’t think you really have the balls to do it. I’d bet good money that I could douse Milo with gas and hand you the lighter and you’d wimp out. Much like SJW’s, who are IMO also mostly hot air.
Overreacting? I’m more concerned with the double standard with regards to tolerance of hate speech if the target is not a leftist or a pet class. We just had someone quickly warned and banned for practically the same sort of comment.
Violence is bad, and we should condemn it when it happens, lest we end up like right wing extremists, who by far commit the majority of political violence in the United States.
And when I say that right wing extremists commit by far the majority of political violence in the United States, and are a bigger threat to this country than ISIS, I’m not excusing violent left wingers, even though extremist right wingers commit by far the majority of the actual political violence in the Untied States.
If we’re not careful to condemn violence in the left wing when we see it, they might end up like right wing extremists, who commit by far the majority of political violence in the United States, and are a bigger threat to this country than ISIS.
Some people might protest that by focusing on the tiny minority of political violence committed by left wing extremists, we’re losing focus on the primary threat to this country, which is right wing extremist political violence. But I disagree. Even though right wing extremists commit by far more political violence than left wing extremists, that doesn’t mean we should let slide the tiny minority of political violence committed by the left wing. If we ignore the tiny minority of violence committed by left wing extremists, it might get out of control, and they would become a true danger to this country, like right wing political extremists are now.
To summarize, right wing political extremists commit the majority of political violence in this country, and are a bigger threat to this country than ISIS.
Right wing violence is bad and is noted as such when it occurs. It’s not defended as stupid college “kids” acting stupidly.
Right, and college kids should be taught not to use mean words or get in the occasional slap fight, else they might graduate to dirty bombs and armed militias murdering law enforcement officers, like right wing extremists.
QFT and thank you for being crystal clear 
Wow, talk bout bullshit. This is a tactic of the left. Try googling something like “college students shut down speaker”.
:dubious: How many hits on such a search would actually involve instances of “using violence to suppress speech”, as clearly specified in the post you were replying to? Leave those goalposts where they are, please.
“Merely speaking” being the operative words. But hey. First: it’s a joke. Second: Milo does more than just “talk”.
As I said, they have to reach. Since most people don’t advocate violence, they have to deliberately misinterpret figures of speech or jokes.
The thing is, there actually is a discussion to be had on these topics, but it cannot happen here where people are just trying to come up with an excuse to vilify the “SJWs.” We can’t actually discuss when violence is or is not appropriate.
Because it will always be interpreted as “Liberals support violence on people who disagree with them,” which is utterly untrue.
As you point out, even given that what you said was obvious hyperbole, Yiannopoulos has done a whole lot more than just speak. Does that mean actual violence is justified? Clearly not. But pretending it’s all about speech is how these types of right wingers vilify the left.
And, even if you completely disagree with me, this does show why we absolutely cannot have a “Stupid SJW of the Day” thread here.
I dunno, the way he targeted that one transgender student for specific harassment apropos of fucking nothing is getting right up there. He pulled a similarly disgusting stunt towards a transgender video game journalist a while back as well. You’d think “actual violence” in the sense of “the state getting on his case for harassment” would be entirely justified. Personally, I’d say “actual violence” in the sense of “at least one good, firm kick to the taint” would be similarly justified. I would like to see Milo face some goddamn consequences for the harm he’s done, and not just for saying some sketchy shit about pedophilia. Is that really so wrong?
I didn’t say they should be exposed to vile opinions; I said they should be exposed to influential opinions. Vileness only entered into it as a description of what shouldn’t be forbidden.
An influential, vile opinion needs to have folks equipped to rebut it in a clear, rational, and incontrovertible fashion. College students should learn the necessary skills; and just as your body learns to fight off polio by receiving a small, neutered dose of the disease, so should college kids learn to fight off shitty influential opinions by encountering them in a neutered environment.
Vile opinions are thick on the ground, and none of them are rebuttable. You cannot reason someone out of misogyny. You cannot reason someone out of racism, or anti-Semitism. You cannot reason someone out of homophobia or transphobia.
These things don’t exist because no one has ever tried to get rid of them. They aren’t reasoned opinions.
If Hitler were giving a speech on a campus, he’d gain recruits. It wouldn’t matter what you said afterward.
And it absolutely legitimizes opinions to give them a stage and a microphone.
And the media brouhaha resulting from not giving them a stage and a microphone (after the inevitable social media shitstorm) is likely to give them even more coverage than if people had just boycotted the speaker but let them take the stage.
The lesser of the two evils is to let the person speak. No matter how reprehensible their views, no matter how much you disagree with them.
Trying to prevent them airing their views only reinforces the “See? THEY are trying to stop me from speaking THE TRUTH!” mentality.
And that’s assuming we’re dealing with views universally acknowledged to be abhorrent, like Holocaust Denial or supporting slavery. It’s an entirely different - and very slippery - kettle of fish when we start getting into stuff that’s not necessarily inherently evil/objectionable, just “politically incorrect” or an unpopular view.
That kind of argument, though, is a little hard for some people to trust, though. Often I’ve seen it when they personally are the ones who’d be negatively affected by some of these points of view. Some have only heard that argument from people who ARE actually Nazis or whatever, and some have heard it from people who with the same breath, say, heavily criticize Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the national anthem. IOW, it’s so easily used as a reasonable sounding veil by those who just want to recruit people into “alt right” beliefs that it’s tough to countenance, even if the speaker is being sincere.