Stupid, uncaring moron

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I’ve decided not to post in the pit anymore. at least, not start any new threads. I requested to have this thread shut down.

But in the future, if I screw up, could you please not say “oh its fine, she’s ginger’s neice” or “oh, ginger should be harder on her, and stop defending her” I love my antie and everything, but please, don’t bring her into this. I am my own person, and while some may not like my views, keep antie out of it. And Wierddave, too, because he’s my uncle now. I can stand up for myself. I am responsible for my own actions. If you wanna yell at someone, yell at me.Just because I’m 15 doesn’t mwan I can’t take it.

I realize now that I’ve calmed down taht this was a very badly done thread. Yes, I am at fault, and yes, I should grow up. 20 seconds IS late, and I should realize that I was justly penalized.

Anyways.

About my mom taking my reading priviliges away; there was a period of time when I was younger where I basically got up, read abook until I had 10 minutes to get to school, got dressed, read while I walked towards school, read during class, lunch, afternoon class, and when I got hime, after reading on the way home from school, I would read until supper, thenput my book down for the 20 minutes it took me to do dishes and supper, then read again till it was bedtime. I remember I read the chrysalids in my first 4 periods of the day when I was 8.
Books are pretty much my life. I don’t have the internet at home, so I only go online when I babysit or stay in time, other then that, I read. And read.
What can I say… I’m pathetic.

But anyways, this thread is hopefully being closed down.
I won’t start any threads in the pit anymore.

Sorry for any troubles…

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Dave, you don’t seem to be getting it. If everyone were either 20 seconds late or 20 minutes late, it would be easy to draw a line and say “you over here are really late, the rest of you are fine.” I’m asking you where you draw the line knowing that people could be anywhere in between. Pretend you’re the teacher. Remember we are dealing with students here; you need a rule you can apply consistently or you’ll get called on it. When are you tardy in Dave’s Common Sense 101, and when are you on time? No fair just submitting extreme examples, I want to give the students a clear rule that they can follow.

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To the family/guardians of M8B.

Perhaps it is time for you to intervene with her up bringing. I have no idea what you have done in the past or have planned for the future but this is getting to be a pattern. M8B gets in trouble. Mom punishes her (by phone) and M8B complains on SDMB and so on and so on. In the end we are left with a 4 page thread of name calling and semi off topic arguments. To top it off, M8B isn’t even responding.

We are told that we don’t know what she has been through. Correct, we don’t but you do.

Is is possible for her Godparents to ignore her mother until she takes responsibility to raise her own child? While M8B is under their roof she will live with and play by their rules. I haven’t heard complaints about the GPs so I am guessing that they are reasonalbe people. Can’t they just yes the mother to death but treat the kid as they see fit.

It seems like an easy solution so I am guessing it can’t be done.

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Waverly, I see the problem. I am talking about work, you about school. I already said school was a different case, so it looks like we agree after all.

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Rules are fine, but we are human beings, not robots. Humans, especially young ones, make mistakes. Just because there is a rule, does not make EVERY application of said rule an “either-or” proposition. Being a minute late to a class isn’t the same as skipping, and doesn’t deserve the same punishment. It certainly doesn’t deserve a call to Mom saying that she skipped, when she did not.

If she is chronically late to class, then harsh punishment is appropriate, we do not have any such evidence, however. Even in that case, the call to Mom should be about chronic tardiness, NOT skipping class.

There is a whole continuum of punishments available, unfortunately, many schools have taken the easy way out and just punish everyone exactly the same, regardless of the severity of the infraction.

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magic8ball well done on your last post. Many people go through life never learning to do that. I was a book nerd at times, and did not have a good school experience to start.

Not to thump a dead horse, but school is the way out. Use the system to get ahead. I slacked on my grades and ended up going into the military before I really grew up. I eventually did go to college, law school, and now am happily married and secure. But I did it the hard way.

As an aside, maybe MPSIMS might be a good place to post if you need a sounding board.

Good luck!

:slight_smile:

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I think there’s an important data point missing here, and if M8B has left the thread, it may remain missing.

Were the teacher’s actions in line with either the teacher’s officially stated policy or the school’s officially stated policy? If so, if the teacher handed out a paper at the beginning of the semester saying “if you are even one second late, I will mark you absent”, then I agree with most people’s comments.

But I severely doubt that. When I was in high school (graduated in '91 in California), there was “absent” and there was “tardy”. They were two separate things. Neither one is good, but absent is a lot worse than tardy. Somehow, teachers managed to make the time to mark the difference between the two. If that’s the kind of policy that M8B’s school officially has, then she has every right to complain, and those of you telling her to grow up and take responsibility for her actions are way over the line… “So you were shoplifting a candy bar and then a crooked lazy cop arrested you and now you’ve been convicted of first degree murder… stop whining! take responsibility for your actions! you shouldn’t have been shoplifting!”

Oh, and yes, punishing someone by revoking reading priveleges just seems warped.

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Dave, in this world of labour surplusses and job shortages, most people do not have the luxury of being able to turf a job because they are treated poorly. While this might not be true for many professionals, for your average punter in your average (especially unskilled) job, you abide by the ‘rules’ (however draconian), otherwise there is always someone else to step in.

To say that someone deserves all the heartache they get for staying in such a job is pretty insulting to all those who, for whatever reason, lack options in the labour market.

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Then you need to tell your Mom to go fuck herself the next time she tries to parent in absentia. If she can’t be bothered to be involved in your life for whatever reason then she has no place to invoke punishments for circumstances she’s not even aware of. And fuck her again for invoking a punishment without even talking to you. Just calling up your God parents and saying “do this”.

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I know I said I wouldn’y post, but I would just like you guys to understand that my mom didn’t just abandon me, she’s on vacation in edmonton. She’l be back on monday.

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I think it’s weird that it was marked as an absense and not a tardy. Have schools done away with tardies? When I went to school we weren’t marked absent unless we were more than 5 mins late.

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I am afraid we shall have to agree to disagree. I am valuable as an employee partially because I don’t buy into the sheep mentality. There are always jobs available, you may just have to look for a while. ( and yes, there are. They may not be jobs you are crazy about working, but they exist. It them becomes a matter of choices: Be abused at one job or leave for one that you don’t like/pays less/whatever. In any event, it’s your choice and your decision. Denying that is another symptom of the culture of victims we live in today.