The funny thing is, I used to go to something similar. It was a club run by Christian’s for teens (13-19) that played pretty much the latest music along with the latest in Christian music (DC Talk, Newboys, Creed etc) And though it was drug free, I am pretty darn sure that people went out back to smoke up and wandered back in.
And that was even more idiotic, if that’s possible, because the Communists were just as anti-porn as Richard Nixon ever was, if not more so. They claimed such things were a symptom of the capitalistic West’s decadence that would ultimately lead to capitalism’s collapse and overthrow.
Besides, everyone knows marijuana leads to Communism, not porn.
See the problem with these anti-drug commercials is that they load them up with lies.
Anybody who has any experience at all with smoking pot knows that once you’re baked, all you wanna do is sit on the couch, order in pizza, wings and chinese food, and try to figure out whether or not you could make a bong out of that Chia Pet.
The last thing on your mind is exerting the amount of effort necessary to take sexual advantage of someone, because if you’re even aware you have a penis/vagina at that point, you’re too baked to use it, and you’re definitely too paranoid about getting in trouble to pick up a gun.
So pretty much you just sit there, amazed as hell at this neat-o invention you just discovered called a ‘hand’ and you marvel at how fascinating the TV Guide channel is. You apply your powers of reasoning to commercials, anime, and bad 80s movies on the Sci-Fi channel after figuring out that the ‘hand’ thing is connected to you and will operate the TV remote. And then when the THC wears off, you pretty much just want a gallon of water and a nap.
By this point, you’ve seen 15 or 20 anti-drug commercials, you’ve realized they’re totally full of shit, and they have thus lost their effectiveness at ever convincing you to not put a chemical in your body. And thanks to that very same war on drugs, it’s easier for a 14 year old to get weed than it is for me, because it’s apparent to the dealer that a 14 year old isn’t a cop. So they learn young to not trust authority, because authority lies.
Hey catsix, that’s some evil skunk you been puffing.
No dude, the evil stuff was the time I ended up watching the entire Halloween movie marathon on TV, followed by Children of the Corn and four hours of anime.
And all I wanted was some damn Doritos.
“Uhmmmm, are you, like, the pizza guy…?”
Am I the only one in this thread who has had sex while stoned?
I highly recommend it.
I think one of the times they road through, they ordered 17 cheeseburgers.
Great idea, make these people look like a complete exaggeration of people who smoke pot, to get your “serious” message across.
Hastur: I have, and depending on who it’s with, it’s pretty damn good.
The thing that I was trying to get across is that while baked out of one’s mind is not the time they rape somebody. They’re either too baked to put forth the effort or too paranoid of the guys in blue.
May I say the “Nick and Norm” ads are beneath insulting?
This whole campaign is a splendid example of the intellectual fatal flaw behind the quagmire that’s the “war on drugs”. “It’s Bad because We Said So; and here are some horror stories to convince you of it” didn’t wash when Norm and Nick were teenagers, it won’t wash now.
And besides, I blame it directly for inspiring the creation of the “Drivers of SUVs ride with Bin Laden” ad.
Heck, I’d rather have the guys from “The Truth” talking about how marijuana smoke has carbon monoxide and pesticide traces, it would probably be more dissuasive.
I think Catsix was the closest when he said, “See the problem with these anti-drug commercials is that they load them up with lies.”
From what I see (I’m still in high school) is when people talk about pot they may talk about something stupid they did when they were high, but when the commercials show people getting killed and people are looking around and seeing that their peers haven’t been killed and have tried it, it destroys the credibility/scarenes ability of the commercial, high school, if that’s the intended audience of the ads, is way too late to try to prevent kids from trying drugs, by that point with most kids its already certain whether they will try them or not, its only a matter of when. Of course this is sticky 'cause how the hell are you going to be able to, intelligently, teach an elementary school kid about the pros and cons of pot?
There was a WW2 propaganda/rationing poster that read “When you ride alone, you ride with Hitler”, and was captioned “Carpool for victory!” or something like that.
I think the point of them reshowing the same thing over and over again (Like the kids with the gun, and the guys in the drive through) Is to show that you can get away with it most of the time and it can be harmless, but one time…There is a chance of harming someone else.
Like a “Sure it might not hurt you 99% of the time, but theres still that 1% chance you might kill someone type thing”
The MOST likely scenario from this one would be that the three dudes would be so taken by the munchies that they’d put the car in park and go through the car like a white tornado to find enough change to fund their nosh. Hence, the kid would be LONG gone. Not to mention “dudes on dope” wouldn’t be SCREAMING out of the drive in, they’d be moseying.
And everyone that wears diamonds supports terrorism as well because they sometimes use slave labor in Africa to get money for financing. Those commercials literally make me sick…I want to scream at them that if they were to simply legalize pot the problem would disappear. (Thats over-simplifying things I know)
Ok, I especially like the one with the teen-age girl finding out she’s pregnant. Girl, your man ain’t smokin’ ENOUGH if he ain’t shootin’ blanks. He’s got to lower his squiggler-count more!
I love the Nick and Norm ads. It’s just so “Goofus and Gallant”. I like how, as the series goes on, the camera gets closer and closer to the faces of our subjects. I like how Norm (or Nick) admits defeat at the end of every commercial, yet always returns in the next segment with another straw man. I love them.
I can’t remember where I read this, but I read about a program that was trying to get kids to stop huffing things like paint markers and aerosols and doing whippets (Nitrous Oxide), and they found that telling the kids that it would kill them wasn’t effective.
What did work was telling them ‘Hey, if you do this stuff, your hair will fall out, you will have bad skin, your teeth will fall out and you’ll look ugly’.
My personal feelings are that there’s really nothing wrong with recreational use of pot, but if you want people to believe the effects, at least be honest about them.
I actually threw something at the television when I saw that one. The other folks at the Super Bowl party were a bit frightened by the tirade I embarked on. I mean, hey, teenagers aren’t confused enough about sex and pregnancy and exactly how and in what circumstances one leads to another–let’s make a commercial saying that ganja has something to do with it! That way, we can misinform them on two subjects at the same time!
The pediatricians I’ve worked with have said exactly the same thing–teenagers are fundamentally unable to grasp the future in a very tangible way, so the best way to reach them is to appeal to the here and now.
Dr. J
You can easily kill somebody with your car at 10mph… A friend of my dad’s (i think that’s who it was… i hope i’m not repeating an urban legend) killed his kid backing up out of the driveway when he tried to hide behind the car… anyway that’s the not the point… the point is your reflexes and awareness are significantly impaired when you’re stoned… otherwise i wouldn’t smoke… you are a much worse driver stoned than sober, are much more a danger/menace on the roads, and if marijuana was ever legalized you better believe they’ll pass strict laws forbidding driving while stoned.
TeleTronOne: Yeah requiem is an awesome movie but uh… if I may make a suggestion to everybody out there, don’t watch the movie right before going to sleep the night before you eat your first mushrooms.