Succession on HBO

I was cringing waiting for Roman to get the absolute shit kicked out of him. He was lucky to just take one smack.

Someone used the term “straight dope” in this episode, which was obviously a shout out. :slight_smile: Was it Shiv?

It was. Made me smile, too.

Yeah i caught that too. Didn’t remember it til you just mentioned it.

I suspect I took a lot of dialogue throughout the show at face value, and was really only paying attention to the complexity of what was actually being said when something ‘important’ was happening on screen. I’m not sure how much Jesse Armstrong had his story arc laid out in advance, but I suspect I will enjoy my plan for Tuesday next week, which is to start again at series 1, ep. 1 and follow the journey again as a more informed and aware observer.

I can’t believe you are dissing ‘one of the finest political operators of his generation’, who’s just ‘sorting shit out’ (his words, not mine). You’re just jealous that he’s a billionaire.

It is a smart move on Kendall’s part if he can get Colin onside and keep him there. He was a very effective operator and loyal when inside the tent.

I took the exchange of “I don’t love it” to be reference to the therapy that they’ve both had and a more general reference to the situation they both find themselves in.

I think it’s one of those things that is funnier left unsaid. We know Connor so well by now that we’ve probably all got our own disastrous personal “Connor Eulogy” that we hoped for.

I’m thinking of grandiose allusions to great historical warriors, self-aggrandisement and borderline slander badged as merely “telling it like it is”

^ Quite true! With at least three Napoleonic references.

Yeah, that must be it. :: snort ::

The whole of season 4 has taken place in a one to two week timeline. Certainly the latest episodes have been in successive days. It seems implausible to have any meaningful wrapup to major plot points the day after the funeral, unless Milwaukee discovers that the ballots have not been destroyed after all and that Mencken ends up the loser. The the assorted houses of cards can come tumbling down.

Other than such a deus ex machina twist I suspect the next episode will take place some time in the future, where we learn everyone’s fates in flashbacks from some framing scenario (ala the Friar’s Club Roast in s5/e6 in Mrs. Maisel).

Great call.

The title of the episode is “With Open Eyes”.

To me, the stupid thing is the three Roy children (Kendall, Shiv and Roman; Connor seems not to care), are so interested in taking control, but why? Even if they’re forced out, they’re presumably still billionaires.

Power has attractions money alone cannot provide.

That’s why you and I aren’t billionaires. Tell that to Elon Musk.

That may be. It may also be that they’re still seeking Daddy’s love and approval, even though he’s dead.

Yes. And Daddy wouldn’t like it if they got rich(er) but lost control of the empire he “spent a fucking lifetime building” (as he would probably put it).

I wouldn’t be surprised it the action jumps forward a little in time, but the show has never used a flashback and I doubt it will for the last episode.

I think that Greg will continue to fall up and fire the kids.

Ultimately that would be the funniest outcome and, let’s be honest, it is as much a black comedy as it is a drama.

That sort of upwards failure was a minor element of another HBO show, Silicon Valley, in which Bighead failed upwards, all the way to the presidency of Stanford University.

Yeah it hadn’t occurred to me but the mass-firing and the discussion between Mattson and Greg may well be foreshadowing for some major corporate demolition work by The Egg.

Greg firing the kids is plausible. But what are we thinking:

Kendall, co-CEO. Fired. Replaced by who?

Roman, co-CEO. Fired. Replaced by who?

Shiv, unclear of her named role (or I don’t remember if she even has one). Maybe fired. Unless it’s something big, not really sure it matters who she is replaced by.