Quite possibly the most exciting game I’ve ever seen played tonight.
You had to be a scum-bag spoiled sport and call a time out right before Dallas kicks the winning field goal; causing Dallas to have to kick it again!!
Well guess what? We DID it again you fucking scum-bag!!
Suck it!! You deserve to lose!!
Whoo-Hoo!! Go Cowboys!!
Fuck the Cowboys, but fuck Buffalo for blowing that shit. I agree that the timeout is a cheap shot. Dallas won the game, fair and square. If you can’t win a game where you get 6 goddamn turnovers, you suck.
Yeah fuck the Cowboys. Tony Romo’s got the shakes and every defense in the NFC knows how to stuff him now. You get a team with an average starting age over 25 and he’ll be racking up five interceptions a week. Enjoy the win while you still have one.
You’re making the Bills’ coach sound like T.O. That is entirely uncalled for, even in the Pit.
Have you seen their difficult schedule? Their opponents records are a combined 6 - 19!
Oh, and enjoy it while you can because as much as I hate New England, they are going to pound the Cowboy’s ass next week.
I didn’t particualrly have a rooting interest in the game, didn’t care who won and was just enjoying it as a tight, interesting contest but I have to agree that was a total douche move on Jauron’s part to call that time out like a millisecond before the ball was snapped. It looked to me like the zebras really had something personal against the Cowboys (or at least against T.O.) and they were bending over backwards to screw Dallas with some really questionable decisions. Owens was interfered with on that 2 point conversion try and it wasn’t called but that review of the pass on the last drive was even worse – not because the intial call wasn’t wrong, it was, Owens did not catch the ball – but because the review came too late. The next play had already been run. Romo had spiked the ball. They aren’t supposed to be able to go back and review plays after that, but because it was Terrell Owens, I guess they decided to make an exception. I ended up pulling for the Cowboys to win that thing just because the officials so obviously wanted them to lose.
Also, it bears repeating that calling that time out right before the kick was an absolute douche move on Dick Jauron’s part. I never heard a whistle, though, so I wonder if the deal was that the officials were only going to give Buffalo the time out if Dallas had made the kick. I bet if he’d missed, they never would have acknowledged any time out call.
Look, until the NFL changes the rule about being able to call a TO from the sidelines, that’s going to keep happening. Complain about the rule all you want but for now it’s a legitimate tactic.
Oh, this is the pit. So fuck the Cowboys.
What is this tactic? Is it new, or a time-honored tradition?
Oakland got this pulled on them 3 weeks ago, and lost. Oakland then pulled it on Cleveland 2 weeks ago and Cleveland lost. Now Buffalo does it to Dallas?
The hell?
It’s a time-honored tradition, heck, it even has a name, “iceing* the kicker”.
But this thread just supports the fact that Cowboys fans are “las lloronas”**
*That should be spelled with an “e”, right? Because it’s not icing, like on a cake?
**Cry babies.
I believe you would still spell it “icing.”
And I’m not sure if this is exactly the same as icing. Icing, as I’ve always known it, is when a timeout is called well in advance of the ball being kicked. This (and the similar plays the last couple weeks in the NFL) seem to go a step beyond this, calling the timeout a split second before the snap so that the play is actually set in motion.
At least, I don’t remember any icing incidents that have actually involved a kick going up and being called back. Perhaps I haven’t been paying close enough attention.
It would have been even more amusing had he missed the first field goal and made the second.
Bow-chicka-wa wa
You ice the kicker right before the snap, when it will supposedly have it’s maximum psychological effect. It’s not new, and it’s not going away. Depending upon when the players on the field actually are aware the time out was called from the sidelines, sometimes they do snap the ball and kick. As long as the time out was called before the snap, there’s nothing against the rules.
And the Cowboys suck. All that whining and self-importance was bad enough before they got TO.
What a poor premise for a rant. If Dick Jauron believes that calling that (perfectly legal) timeout gives his team a better chance to win the game, he is morally obligated to do so. He may well be wrong that it helps his team, and it may be that the NFL should change the rules to prevent this particular kind of icing. Nonetheless, a coach must make a good faith effort to do whatever he thinks will help his team, within the rules.
Also, Dio, are you kidding me? Biased refs who were trying to screw Dallas out of the game?
It was borderline and could have been called, granted, but I doubt that draws a flag even 50% of the time.
That happens all the time with reviews handed down from the booth (which, of course, occur only in the final two minutes and hence usually happen during a hurry-up drill). In this case the booth had about 10 seconds to look at the replay and decide that a review was in order. Of course they got the signal down to the refs a millisecond before the ball was snapped. As long as the ref gets buzzed before the next play, it’s a legitimate review, even if the ref does not have time to register the buzzing and blow the whistle before the snap.
Anyway, point is, it happens all the time. It’s not a conspiracy against the Cowboys.
You must be joking. On these last-second icing timeouts, the way it works is this: the coach, on the sideline, is standing next to the line judge and lets him know that he’s going to call a timeout at the last second. At the appropriate moment (about a second or two before the ball figures to be snapped), the coach request the timeout. The line judge then grants the timeout in the usual way, but he’s far away from all the players (and, significantly, the network’s sound pickups), and there are 70,000 screaming fans, so this tends to go unnoticed. Significantly, this exact thing has happened at least four times this season, so it would be a huge stretch to think that the refs were trying to screw with Cowboys, specifically.
Prior to this year, do you personally recall many icings resulting in re-kicks being necessary? I don’t. This year we’ve had 3 of them in 4 weeks.
I hate hate hate the idea that a coach can go up to an official and tell him he’s going to call a time out, at a particular time to have maximum negative effect on the opponent, and the official helps him do it. The rule should be, once they are in the set position, the coach can’t call a time out anymore. At least then, someone on the field of play will actually know about the time out before the play is run.
I’m pretty sure the last second ice move is new this year. The have always done it, but with enough time to just kill they play before the kicker starts the motion. I believe Danver’s Shannahan started it against the Raider’s earlyier this year.
I think it is only lame in as much as I don’t recall it ever working.
But I suppose it has to be tried.
I hate it too. First time I noticed it was when Shanahan pulled it early this year and now its being done at the college level too. Florida tried it on Auburn, but with the same result as last night. If, as mentioned, we get a couple of missed FGs that are sucessfully rekicked, then we may see it end but I’d have no problem with them outlawing it, amending the rules along the lines Cheesesteak mentions.
Everyone was talking “classic trap” pregame and damn if they weren’t right. Dang if that wasn’t one butt ugly win.
One note though… the Bills were offsides on the second kick. Had Folk missed #2 he would have then had a 3rd chance from the 48.
I remember Bill Cowher running that last second time-out call against Atlanta in the Falcon’s 41-38 dramatic win last season. IIRC, Atlanta was attempting a last second FG to win it. They made it but the TO was called. They ended up winning in OT anyway.
This season isn’t the first time it’s ever happened. They should have looked at it last off-season, and they didn’t.
Link to that game recap.
This is pretty much my feeling on the subject.
Hell, i’ve always been of the opinion that the only people who should be able to call timeouts are the players on the field, whether the line is set or not.
Actually (and i realize i’m pissing into the wind here) i think football would be a better game with no timeouts at all. It’s not like the game isn’t fucking slow enough as it is, and it’s not like the offense doesn’t have time to work out their play-calling strategy while the defense is on the field. And don’t get me started on the two-minute fucking warning.
It’s the most brilliant sales snow job in history. “We’ll incorporate rules that do nothing to improve the game, and that make the fans sit through more advertising. And we’ll convince the fans that they’re actually getting a better game as a result. Brilliant!”