suck it you hateful bigoted degenerate whore-mothered goat-fucking trash(gay marriage ban overturned

Good.

And the more people who get married, the less the chance it will be made illegal again in the future. Not only will people see it doesn’t affect them at all, but also if a significant number of gay couples are married, then leaving them in some form of legal limbo would seem a little odd.

Weren’t there *already *a significant number of same-sex couples in California prior to Prop 8, when they had that little window? Which is why the homophobic fuckheads pushed it through so hard?

Well, that depends how you define “significant”. 18,000 licenses were issued, and I presume that nearly as many actual marriages occurred.

I think we all remember the subsequent dip in the birth rate… have you *been *to California recently? It’s like a freakin’ ghost town!

Really, I think we can all agree that the world can do with a few, er, fewer Californians.

Would splitting it in two like Virginia help? The we can have North and South California. Or the Real Americalifornia and GayHollywoodLiberalElitesfornia.

San Francisco is going to muddy the waters some, I’d imagine.

Not immediately, stay is in effect until the 18th, pending an emergency stay from a higher court, which seems doubtful, I would think.

Actually if anything the North tends to be more liberal than most of the South. And as it happens there is occasional talk about splitting the state; it’s one of those things that comes up every so often, a few people are passionate about it, but it never goes anywhere.

I was going to say - SF/Oakland/Berkeley is probably the most liberal enclave in the U.S., and it’s NorCal.

And isn’t Orange County known as one of the most conservative counties?

Yes.

Basically, the eastern half of NorCal is conservative, and the western half is liberal. The eastern half is basically the agricultural Central Valley and the Sierra Nevada. The western half has a lot more people, though, particularly the Bay Area. Sacramento city is in the Central Valley but is liberal.

SoCal basically leans conservative, except Los Angeles County, which is an 800 pound liberal gorilla when it comes to voting power.

OC and Bakersfield are quite conservative.

I have been married for 30 years. Gay marriage has been allowed, then disallowed in several states and other countries during that time. Yet for some reason ,I fail to see what impact any of it has had on my marriage. What am i supposed to be worried about?

Where does an 800 pound liberal gorilla sit?

Realizing that you don’t have to force yourself to stay married to someone of a gender you’re not all that attracted to and running off for some hot hot forbidden manlove instead.

No, seriously. Someone posted some very enlightening cites in one of these threads a while back that demonstrated how many anti-gay crusaders really do think that everybody is attracted to the same sex and just forces themselves into hetero relationships.

Mannish boys, indeed.

Yes there were. I don’t know exactly how their legal status was treated on an ongoing basis. But turning the clock back on this sort of thing is hard, and gets harder the more people who are involved.

All the same-sex marriages in CA which took place during the window were basically grandfathered in. They are still valid CA marriages. It’s just that no new same-sex marriage licenses could be issued after Prop 8 passed.