Supergirl Saw it thread (some spoilers in OP)

Man this was the second Summer movie this year to let me down (after Disclosure Day). And I feel worse feeling this way because every Chud on the Internet has hated this movie since it was announced and I don’t want to be even remotely associated with that.

Some context: I really really liked last year’s Superman. I have also read the source comic that this Supergirl story was based on and liked it so I knew this would be more of a sci fi adventure than a superhero movie and was okay with that.

The good:

Mily Alcock is good as Supergirl. This is an interesting take on the character because unlike Kal, she remembers Krypton and feels true sorrow for its loss vs Superman who never really knew his home (and in this incarnation has reason to reject it).

I liked the world building. I get a kick out of just random aliens are everywhere scifi. It reminds me of old cartoons like Space Ghost.

The villain. I like moral ambiguity as much as anyone but sometimes you just need a villain that is easy to hate (more on that later though).

The bad.

It just looked ugly. There was zero color. Everything was muddy. I get we were seeing some messed up planets but there is a way to make that look like something other than brown.

Lobo. He just had none of the character’s charisma and none of Jason Momoa’s showed through.

Every action sequence was flat when they should have been exciting.

I think in short this was a badly directed movie. I know James Gunn can’t direct them all but this one suffered.

The ending. I will spoiler this. I hated that Supergirl killed the villain. I get why. To save the girl from doing it which is commendable but at the end of the day that means there’s a person on Earth with the power of Superman who is willing to kill and that is terrifying. The original comic is more vague about what happened at the end.

So yeah I didn’t hate this but I wanted to love it and I only thought it was fine at best.

How does she keep her superskirt from flying up upon landing?

When I heard the term “gritty” in one review, I lost all interest.

Also (a spoiler revealed in many reviews) A dog is grievously injured. That’s a non-starter for my wife.

She doesn’t actually wear the costume much but when she does she has spandex under the skirt.

Krypto’s crisis is the inciting incident of the story. That is actually right out of the source comic the story is based on. She is in a quest to save him.

BTW and this is mostly an aside, this movie confirms beyond a shadow of a doubt that Lex Luthor did not falsify anything about the Kyrptonian recording in Superman.

I think it is a better movie than Superman from last year. In fact, I liked it quite a bit.

Uh, did Lobo say, “See ya, tits!”?

Tits? That’s what he calls her? Not “toots”. So odd.

I did a double take also but he said “Ditz” because earlier he called her, “the Ditz in the bar” and she said, “Funny, that’s what I called you.”.

Thank you. This makes more sense, but boy if it didn’t sound like “tits” to me. I brushed it off more or less, but it was odd.

Anyway. Good movie. I don’t mind that she killed the bad guy at the end, but I know nothing of Supergirl’s normal behavior in comics and stuff.

I despise Lobo. He really is a villain, but they have made him into an antihero. He is disgusting.

When I saw he had a major role, I lost all interest.

Those too. No way.

It’s a very odd role. 15 minutes of screen time maximum. He feels quite forced in.

History repeats itself.

This movie was just so meh. Absolutely nothing special or interesting about it whatsoever, with a completely bland and non-memorable villain. Incredibly poor writing, and an annoying child sidekick who serves no real purpose. Almost no laughs at all. I saw this opening night with a packed crowd and you could just feel the energy slowly sap away as there were not really any reactions to anything. Superman was in my top films of 2025, this is just bad.

I had seen the trailer for this at the Mario movie and I remember thinking “well I guess I’m not going to see that” and I can’t remember why. I THINK maybe because the dog was in peril, and I don’t dig that. Then I read the plot on Wikipedia and I saw it involved young women being kidnapped and while I’m sure it all works out in the end, that’s not the fun summer movie I’m looking for.

I too loved the last Superman movie, and I quite enjoyed The Flash as well. The bright colors is what draws me to superhero films (I really liked Thor: Ragnarok!) so I wouldn’t have liked this.

My brother is a huge DC/Superman guy so he invited me to see this tonight but I declined. Hoping Superman (2025) part 2 is better.

Yeah, that whole storyline felt like something from 15 years ago. It was a also more than a bit cringey how everyone, including the hero characters, referred to them as “the brides” when they were kidnapped with the literal and only purpose to be raped to further the all-male race of the villains. Like… what!?

I’m not familiar with the source comic, but I figure a few minor tweaks would have made the movie significantly better, or at least a lot less cringey.

Kara’s reasons for her drunken “vacations” needed a small expansion. It’s not just so she can drink herself into a self-pitying mess, but also because she finds Earth periodically intolerable for two key reasons - sensing too much and sensing too little. On Earth, her invulnerability leaves her only barely able to sense hot or cold or fear or pain, but her super-senses make her very aware of human sounds and smells. Somewhat akin to the 2003 Daredevil movie, she can only sleep (and she doesn’t really need to do that either) in sensory-deprivation. We get a hint of this in a momentary flashback scene where she’s standing at a window in Metropolis and uses her earphones to cover the sounds of screams and sirens and whatnot, but for me the real disappointment was that we didn’t get to see the trailer-teased moment where “your powers should be kicking in right about… now”. That would have been a prime moment for Superman to say to her “Don’t freak out”, a line that she would not have understood at the time but which she used repeatedly during the movie.

“Don’t freak out” is not a useful thing to say. If somebody’s having an overwhelming moment, telling them to not be overwhelmed won’t help, but it’s the kind of thing Superman might have said to her at that moment and which she might say repeatedly to Ruthye as shorthand for “I can’t help you with your personal crisis, but please… try to control yourself because it’s making me feel bad.” This could have come in context in a scene where Ruthye asks for help and Kara snaps at her with “I come on vacation so I don’t have to listen to people asking for help!”

Kara could get total isolation by just parking her ship in orbit around a red sun and drinking by herself, but she’d tried it and it was unsatisfactory. She grew in a crowded city (or what was left of one) and total isolation has its own drawbacks, so she needs to be around people (or sentient aliens, anyway) in manageable doses.

I have no problem with Kara being a deeply screwed-up person, considering what she was seeing in Argo City right up to the moment of its catastrophic failure and her escape, but her repeated lecturing of Ruthye about not killing for revenge ring hollow. Kara is definitely and somewhat casually killing people left and right (I guess…? The Brigands seem near-invulnerable, which makes me wonder how Ruthye was going to be able to kill Krem with a sword after he’d survived a beating by an enraged Kara), but that could have been altered slightly so Kara’s trying to not be lethal, perhaps explained by a reference to her being the last child of Krypton (Kal-El doesn’t really count, she says, having been raised entirely on Earth) and Krypton was civilized, eager to preserve life as much as possible, thus she views Lobo as a brutal and nihilistic agent of chaos. Let Ruthye have a moral arc where she ends up mentored by Kara and Lobo, presenting supposedly opposite sides of the coin, only to learn that Kara’s morality is deeply flawed because she’s deeply flawed, and Lobo does indeed have a personal code that he strictly lives by, much more rigidly than Kara clings to hers. At the climactic scene when Ruthye is about to get her revenge on Krem, Kara is encouraging her not to but Lobo is egging her on and Ruthye kills him, to Kara’s dismay but Lobo’s massive amusement.

Frankly, the whole “don’t kill him, it won’t help and you’ll be just as bad as he is” trope is such an overused cliché, I was disappointed this movie used it. Ruthye getting her revenge would have been a redeeming subversion, and afterward she says goodbye to Kara and decides to hang around with Lobo, which he’s willing to play along with (for a little while) mostly because it obviously annoys Kara and he finds that hilarious.

Kara returns to Earth for the ending chat with Superman, says something along the lines of “there’s way too much pointless brutality in this universe, I think I’ll try keeping it in check here on Earth for a while.”

“So you’re going to try being a hero?” he asks, optimistically.

“Heh, sure,” she rolls her eyes a little as she pets Krypto, but… yes.

It’s not really a cliche. Studies have shown that killing someone changes a person and can scar them psychologically (assuming they aren’t mentally ill or something).

Yeah, I think people really miss this part of it. Batman doesn’t kill not because of some moral code, he just knows once he starts he’d end up as The Joker.

Superman said that line right before she was able to hear all the sounds of Metropolis.

What I meant is we don’t see the effects of that moment - the scene abruptly cuts away before the “now” can happen, and it could have been presented as a significant reason Kara is that screwed up.

If it scars Ruthye… so? The movie’s not about her and we’re not likely to ever see her again, Lobo’s not scarred by all the killing he does, and Kara’s already scarred. The preservation of Ruthye’s innocence does not strike me as an interesting or significant motivation - there’s no indication Kara’s going to adopt and raise her, though I think it might be amusing if Lobo did for a little while.

The greater universe Ruthye lives in is clearly a brutal place. We might be mildly entertained by her clumsy and naive quest for revenge, but she better grow up quick. I admit, I was slightly surprised that Kara struck the fatal blow - I was vaguely expecting the bad guy to get up, lunge at Kara, miss and fall to his death, which would have firmly cemented the cliché. My preferred version of this ending would be Kara taking the antidote and then just stepping back:

Kara: Well, Ruthye, if you want your revenge, go ahead, but I promise you it won’t help.

Lobo: What are you waiting for, kid?

Ruthye kills Krem, Lobo laughs, Kara turns away shaking her head.

I liked the movie, although I would have preferred Krem be as he was in the comic, and not the Mad Max reject we see in the movie from the get-go.