Suppose in a year or so Trump does somehow manage to broker a real peace treaty. I want to make it clear that it is not to be like the various earlier accords which were at best outlines of a possible settlement that actually didn’t satisfy either side. This would have to be either a genuine 2 state solution or the end the religious dominance and full citizenship for everyone. I cannot see Trump or anyone else actually pulling it off but if he (or anyone else) actually pulled it off, I would think they would fully deserve it, Even, I hate to say it, Trump.
The Ghost of Henry Kissinger: “He didn’t even rack up a six figure body count or overthrow a democratically elected government. We have standards here, you know! Let him try for the SNL Five-Timers Club instead.”
Trump couldn’t broker his way out of a paper bag. All he can do is threaten. That’s not worthy of something called a “Peace Prize”. Anyway, the Nobel Committee, exemplars of refinement and integrity, undoubtedly hate his guts and wouldn’t give him the time of day, let alone a distinguished honour.And Trump will gripe about it endlessly.
IF he does it, and it is a lasting peace, then sure, Nobel Prize for him. Massive if, but yes.
It cannot be one of his “shake hands in front of camera and everyone goes right back to killing each other 3 days later” bullshit dog-and-pony shows, though.
I take it you all agree that (1) it is incredibly unlikely that Trump could actually pull this off and (2) if he actually did it, broker a real peace, then sure.
If he settles fifty-four wars in the next three years, we have to consider A} will they hold? We will have to wait and see. B} There is a balance sheet, and renaming Dept of Defense to Dept of WAR heads the negative column, which is painfully long.
I’m assuming that the NOBLE committee considers everything. If anything is awarded, it should be posthumous. The sooner…
No, I agree with #1 (it’s incredibly unlikely) but I disagree with #2 because neither Trump nor his goons know what they’re doing, so I’ll never believe that any entity as incredibly incompetent as Trump and his goons should ever get credit for anything. If anything good happens under that gang’s watch, it almost certainly would have happened anyway, and they were probably just in the way.
Trump is so fucking stupid that it astounds me that anyone could credit him with anything. He’s claiming credit for ending wars between two countries that were never at war, because he probably mixed them up with some other countries. Just look at today’s news. In the midst of a government shutdown, he’s firing thousands more federal workers (beyond the damage that Musk had done) in seven departments, accusing them of being Democrats. He’s imposed new 100% tariffs on China, re-igniting a global trade war, and the Dow drops 900 points. It’s amazing that he doesn’t trip over his untied shoelaces and fall flat on his face.
I would grant Trump that peace in the Middle East is a good thing.
I would not dismiss the road to fascism we are on. He could find a cure for cancer, and I would grant him that was a good thing. But the whole dictatorship thing, in the big picture, is bad for humanity.
The thing is, even in the wildly implausible universe where Trump’s two brain cells manage to hang onto a thought that isn’t about himself for long enough to bring about such a peace deal, all eyes will then turn away from him and start celebrating the region’s new possibilities, which will cause the Ego Monster to become jealous and gallop in to fuck everything up again.
As said, he’s incompetent and even more importantly, he’s not actually in charge of the Middle East. Nor is any other President. The only people who can actually make peace in the Middle East happen, are the people who live there.
So, no; neither he nor any other President would deserve a Nobel Prize for such an occurrence, and given everything else he’s done I’m not even slightly inclined to give him one anyway to reward his (nonexistent) good-faith efforts in that direction.
I agree that if he brokers peace between Hamas and Israel, he should be considered. However, the ICE raids, the attacks on Venezuelan boats which have killed 21, and the National Guard deployments to American cities disqualify him for the award.
Just looked it up. No posthumous prizes (but if a recipient passes after the announcement and before the bestowal of the award, it goes through. But they won’t consider an unalive person in deliberations).
But I agree with you. If His Nibs were to oblige us by shuffling off this mortal coil (and as you say, the sooner…), that would be a contribution meriting consideration of an exception.
ETA: I wonder if the America-hating fuckstick is about to announce that he is firing the Nobel Committee.
Not on-topic (for which I apologize), but my late friend Don (1930-1922, RIP) had the same take vis a vis Little Ronnie Reshit (as he was wont to call him) and the breakup of the USSR. Just happened to be sitting in the right chair at the right time.
What I think is: (1) it is incredibly unlikely that Trump could actually pull this off and (2) if he actually did it, broker a real peace, then it wouldn’t eliminate his Human rights abuses in America, or his threat to take over Panama and Greenland by force, or his history of sexual assault, so still no.
Nominations for the Prize have a deadline of January 31. The odds that the U.S. will be fighting an authoritarian dictatorship are high, with federal troops scattered among blue states. Norway could not recognize a President at war with his own country with a Peace Prize.
Wow. Don should have received his own Prize. Really, any one would do.
