Maybe she buried it to keep it away from her so that it would ripen.
Were they trying to fool anyone? I thought it was intended to be campy. I thought it was hilarious, too, BTW. I loved how he used the machete to hack at a few fronds strategically placed by the props department. Oo! What a tough guy!
That was my favorite moment of the whole series. For some reason, it seems to be socially unacceptable for the disabled to say that they deserve “extra credit” for keeping up with the non-disabled, so I admire him so much for admitting those feelings on national TV. I mean, it would have been annoying as hell if he had brought it up or acted on those feelings during the game, but it was very cool that he admitted that the thought crossed his mind.
Past tense. Margie is dead and gone.
Buried like a bannana! 
Ah. That explains why she’s been so quiet, then.
And there are no other racist CEO’s, right? Oh, please. George Steinbrenner and Ted Turner are equally as obnoxious as Marge Schott, yet baseball didn’t make them give up their teams. The old boys didn’t like an outspoken, obnoxious woman, but they have no trouble with outspoken, obnoxious MEN.
Yes, Richard Hatch formed a strong “alliance” with Rudy just as Twila formed a strong “alliance” with both Scout and Chris.
What exactly is your point?
Are we seriously defending the woman that referred to Reggie Sanders and Chris Sabo in the press as her quote-unquote “millon dollar niggers”? :dubious:
This isn’t a male-vs-female thing. This is a racist-vs-nonracist thing.
Back to the show, I thought this season’s final endurance challenge was excellent.
Have they ever had anything like that in prior seasons? (I have only seen Australia, Africa and All-Stars).
Let’s recap:
Munch: name one survivor who did well (final four) who didn’t try to form relationships at any point.
PunditLisa: Richard Hatch.
Munch: Hogwash. I said “relationships” not “friendships”. The man defined alliance building. Can’t have an alliance without a relationship.
PunditLisa: Yes, Richard Hatch formed a strong “alliance” with Rudy just as Twila formed a strong “alliance” with both Scout and Chris.
It doesn’t seem that Hatch quite qualifies under the “didn’t form a relationship” criteria, per your admission above.
I’m just not getting why everyone thinks Twila’s so admirable now. I mean, just because she couldn’t not be Twila? Rather than make some odious comparison, think of a person you really dislike and think about whether you could vote to give them the million just because they were just being themselves. Frankly, I didn’t like Twila from episode one through the finale. And I’d never have given her the money…which brings me to my point.
Twila only made the final two because everyone, to a person, wanted Twila as their opponent in the final two. She couldn’t have beaten ANY contestant from this season in the final two.
Oh yeah, hated Scout too. Talk about a sanctimonious *!@#%.
Overgeneralize much? Obnoxious does not necessarily equal racist, and anyway, I never said there weren’t other racist CEO’s. I told you why I didn’t like Marge Schott, and it had nothing whatever to do with her “unfeminine” behavior. It had more to do with her inhumane behavior. I wouldn’t like ANYONE who said the things she did, male or female. And I am a Red Sox fan, so I know from racists, OK? Yawkey was one of the worst there ever was. He wasn’t made to give up his team, either. But it wasn’t because he was a man. It was because people then were willing to tolerate things that people were not willing to tolerate when Marge Schott ran the Reds.
You asked earlier:
No. He was trying to win a million dollars. However you feel about what he did, Eliza and Julie obviously feel differently, because they voted for him. Probably because they know that if they were in Chris’s position, they might have had to do the same thing to win a million dollars. And for all we know – since we only see what the producers and editors choose to show us – they actually did.
Bingo.
It sure didn’t help that Chris got her all riled up the day of the final vote, asking if she was going to take any crap off of anybody…
now THAT was a cool move…
I’m not defending her. I’m comparing her to Ted Turner, who has made insulting comments about Catholics, the Pope, Pollacks, Jews and immigrants. I’m putting forth the argument that there are two standards of behavior in society: one for men and one for women.
Ted Turner is a contemporary of Marge Schott. George Steinbrenner is a contemporary of Marge Schott.
According to this report, she was referring to Eric Davis and Dave Parker, not the very white Chris Sabo. 
Pash
What has Steinbrennar ever said or done that has been deemed racist? Just curious.
I thought this thread was for Survivor 12/12. I’m pretty sure “Subverting the Patriciarchal Paradigm” is somewhere in GD.
Let me try a short counterfactual exercise with Chris being honest with Julie when they go on their reward challenge.
She took him on that reward, after all, to discover how he might vote in upcoming challenges: She knew that her head was on the chopping block.
Instead of telling her that she is like a “the little sister that he never had” and that he won’t ever betray her, he tells her that he has built a strong RELATIONSHIP and ALLIANCE with Scout and Twila and that he’s got to be true to that first. It was Scout and Twila who allowed him, after all, to break the stranglehold that Ami seemed to have on the voting.
With such an honest response, Chris and Julie would have returned to camp.
When Eliza won the subsequent IC, Julie would have known that if she didn’t start working fast, her ass would be gone.
In such a situation, were I Julie, I would go to Twila, whom I had spent days with after the team switch trying to stay alive, and tell her that Chris was playing both sides. I would tell Twila that Chris had promised me that he would vote for her (Twila), but that I was unsure of his honesty. We three (Julie, Twila and Scout), therefore, should stick with our original plan and vote Chris out, Eliza being immune.
While this would be a lie, it would be the only way for me (Julie), to stay alive and not be eliminated.
There are other scenarios that might have played out, but this is the one I feel would have been most likely considering the strength of the Scout-Twila alliance. I don’t know whether they would have gone along such a plan proposed by Julie, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did.
As a result, for his honesty, Chris might have been rewarded with a booting from the tribe. By lying to Julie, he was able to prevent her from approaching Twila and Scout with an alternative voting strategy that might have cost him the game. To me that’s good gamesmanship, not cheating.
I’m interested in your thoughts.
DAMN! :smack: I knew that. Forgive me, I have a terminal case of the stupids today.
**Savonarola ** , I agree.
Your post also reminded me of a dishonesty of Julie.
When the tribes switched prior to the merge, Julie stayed in the game (and ultimately doomed Sarge et. al.) by telling Twila that Sarge had offered her a deal as well as Twila.
Julie’s move kept her alive and shaped the game as much as any maneuver short of Twila’s getting Chris to pull Eliza into the Old Woman alliance.
For Julie to say she was an innocent is not true. She flat out LIED to Twila.
And I don’t blame her one bit.
Oh, and I was disappointed that Probst didn’t ask the standard reunion question of whether anyone would have voted differently had Chris taken Scout instead of Twila.