Survivor 3/13

Cafe Society
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[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong]
OTOH, I think one or two of them SHOULD have voted for Ozzie. With luck, you’d make him paranoid enough to use the HI the next time that tribe goes to TC. Let him waste it and then he’s vulnerable when you actually try to go after him.
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Except that they don’t know he has the idol.

Assuming the alliance with James and Parvati is still in place, the thing for Ozzie and Co to do now is throw ICs. As it stands, if they win, the other tribe will vote off a Fav and they go to the merge equal (or down). If they lose a few more times and eliminate a few Fans, then they go to merge up in numbers. For the last IC vote before the likely merge, turn on Cerie to weaken the other Fav alliance and it should be relatively smooth sailing to the Final Four.

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[QUOTE=squeegee]
Probst seemed to genuinely like Penner, coming out and shaking the man’s hand, and saying something along the lines of “it’s been an honor” as Penner was being loaded onto the ambulance boat. Every other departing tribe member in my memory has gotten indifference or even hostility from Jeff when they’ve decided to leave the game (although Penner had a pretty darned good reason to go).
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I think it’s because Penner seems to be one of the few to become a better person through Survivor. Remember what a tool he was the first time around? IMO he started growing through that season and now he’s one of the genuine good guys that no one wants to see go.

[QUOTE=Aithele]
I’m not so sure Jason thinks the idol he found is fake. It’s possible he said he thought Ozzy has it just to throw off suspicion of him finding it.
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I think intellectually he knows it’s fake and Ozzy has the real one, but emotionally he so badly wants it to be real.

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[QUOTE=ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]
This is the first season of Survivor I’ve watched in years and years. I’m downloading it via Xbox Live marketplace on Fridays.
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Hey, I like the Xbox and all, but you know you can watch the episodes for free at CBS.com, right?

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Not on our big HDTV, at least not without futzing with one of our laptops somehow, and I’m lazy. It is just more fun when Tracy’s nipples are each 1" across. :smiley:

We download Lost in HD every week this way too, and that pretty much sums up our TV programming consumption.

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[QUOTE=Saint Cad]
I think it’s because Penner seems to be one of the few to become a better person through Survivor. Remember what a tool he was the first time around? IMO he started growing through that season and now he’s one of the genuine good guys that no one wants to see go.
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I watched the extra with him after the surgery, and he says just this. He was very aware of how badly he was perceived, and it bothered him a lot after his season aired. He definitely came into the game with a different game plan this time, and it showed. Penner is one of the celebrities I’d like to see show up on the Dope. I think he’d be a good addition.

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[QUOTE=singular1]
I watched the extra with him after the surgery, and he says just this. He was very aware of how badly he was perceived, and it bothered him a lot after his season aired. He definitely came into the game with a different game plan this time, and it showed. Penner is one of the celebrities I’d like to see show up on the Dope. I think he’d be a good addition.
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I never understand this attitude. Survivor is a game, where the object is to win a million dollars. Lying is just part of the game. Blaming players for lying, breaking alliances, etc, strikes me as the equivalent of looking down on poker players who bluff, or members of the Mafia over here for plotting against the townfolk. If you removed lying, backstabbing, etc. from Survivor, it would become very dull.

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[QUOTE=muldoonthief]
I never understand this attitude. Survivor is a game, where the object is to win a million dollars. Lying is just part of the game. Blaming players for lying, breaking alliances, etc, strikes me as the equivalent of looking down on poker players who bluff, or members of the Mafia over here for plotting against the townfolk. If you removed lying, backstabbing, etc. from Survivor, it would become very dull.
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Within any game’s set of rules, there are behaviors that are generally acceptable and others that are widely frowned upon, even if strictly allowed. Within any game’s set of rules, a player can play hard and determined and all-out to win in a way that earns him the respect of other players (and spectators), or a player can play hard and determined and all-out to win in a way that most other players (and spectators) will find disagreeable and off-putting.

In Poker, many (most?) games allow sandbagging, but many players find it somewhat less than honorable and lose some respect for players that do it. If a player pulls off a great bluff, then gets on the table and dances and screams, “In your face, losers!”, he’s within the rules of the game, but he’s not making any friends nor gaining any respect.

In Survivor, there are ways to play that gain respect and ways to play that lose respect, all within the strict rules of the game. It sounds like a contradiction, but there are honorable ways to lie and cheat (in Survivor, anyway), and the evidence for that is clear in many past shows. There’s no shortage of players who have lied and back-stabbed, but still earned the respect of many of the other players and viewers.

Johnathon, on the other hand, in his first outing, was abrasive, loud, obnoxious, annoying and a major asshole, in addition to lying. This time out, he appeared to be toning way down on the obnoxious and annoying, while keeping the lying. Hence, first time out, he was hated, this time he was liked.