Survivor 36: Ghost Island premieres tonight

All new cast, randomly split into 2 tribes. The schtick is that “Ghost Island” is scattered with relics of mistakes from the past - poorly played HIIs, etc. No clear indication what power they’ll actually have, but I’m sure they’ll play them up on TV, and they’ll ultimately have little influence on the game.

I don’t really get how it’s going to work since most of the “cursed” items are pretty much just “I went home instead of playing an idol,” but I’m optimistic. It’s good to have a break from “I’m going to generalize your experience based on the tribe we stuck you in” seasons.

I’m hoping for the charred remnants of fake HIIs that Jeff has tossed into the fire over the years - “This is…not a hidden immunity idol.”

And hopefully J.T.'s love letter to Hantz & the idol he gave him will appear.

JT’save was an example of horrible Idol-handling. Another was Cody choosing Tina, and the worst was that kid who got rolled by the hot girls.That was sad and dumb at the same time.

There have been some puzzle disasters as well.

Then there was the guy who outed his teammate as LGBTQ. He was immediately ostracized by his other teammates.

There have been a lot of huge mistakes.

I don’t quite understand the “Ghost Island” concept, but I’m hoping it won’t diverge too far from the normal season template. Also I like that there will be an all-new cast.

But really, Survivor is like pizza; even when it’s bad it’s still pretty good. I’ll be watching!

It sounds like it’s just Exile Island, except you’re guaranteed to find something that they can play a clip on TV for, but there’s no guarantee the thing you find will be helpful at all. So basically it’s a mechanism so they can spend a whole season playing clips from 35 previous seasons.

Holy crap I love the twists in the game so far. Ghost Island is cool.

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I’m disappointed that there isn’t a game at every ghost island

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I’m eagerly awaiting the clip of Eliza shouting “It’s a fucking stick!”

Overall I liked it. The exile/ghost island hook looks like it isn’t being overplayed - just another way to get advantages. The challenges were good too.

Bummer that Jacob got voted out so soon. He was by far the most interesting character on his tribe.

The camera work on this episode was a little weird. There was the blonde on the orange tribe (Libby?) who was the center point of every possible shot, but who didn’t say a word until about 90 minutes into the episode.

I thought they did play that last night? I distinctly remember Eliza’s terrifying eyes at some point.

They did.

This episode was pretty “meh”, but Survivor doesn’t really get going until the merge. I’m hoping to see both of the alpha males on that one tribe get booted early. Can’t remember their names-- the blond guy from NY, but really from Florida and the Italian construction guy from NY. Both are obnoxious.

It looks like the contestants were told to wear clothing that matched the colors of their tribe flag/buffs. It was like everyone was color coordinated. I noticed that last season too.

Crap, how did I forget the best moment of the episode, the season, and perhaps all time? When Jacob poured the tribe’s rice into his green Sasquatch sock, looking for a clue!

Jacob played Ghost Island spectacularly bad. He should have come back and either been completely honest, or said he had he chose the wrong box and didn’t get the key to open the advantage. Also the construction guy making a fake HI. Now they know he has an idol, it doesn’t matter that he made an obvious fake. He put a target on his back.

Can anyone explain to me how it makes sense to tell someone you have an idol, but show them a fake one, when you actually have a real one?

The only thing I can think of is maybe you give it to them to play… but how does that work out - either they get voted out by playing a worthless idol (in which case they would have been voted out anyway) and all you did was come off as a jerk or they don’t get voted out but play the worthless idol and realize you lied to them when Jeff throws it in the fire. Maybe it keeps them from scrambling when they are targeted? I guess that could work… but doesn’t seem worth the obvious and real risk that your real idol is no longer a secret.

Seemed like a very bad plan all around to me. He should have wrapped his fake one up with the real note and “helped” the other guy find it.

As for Jacob, he just didn’t have a social game at all. I’m pretty convinced that what little they did show us that looked like he was making some connections was just the others doing the “make Jacob think he’s safe in case his idol is real” thing, not any actual intent or game on his part.

Jacob certainly managed to make a strong impression, putting himself in the running for “biggest Survivor goober ever” after only two episodes!

And yeah, I don’t understand Domenick’s plan either. I guess his thought process is to get both the benefit of “I’ll show loyalty by sharing my idol” and potentially setting the other dude up for giving him a fake idol down the line, but I think all he really did was clue Chris into realizing that Domenick has an idol and is fucking with him.

It’ll be interesting to see how the Ghost Island gimmick plays out. I know there have been a lot of fans complaining about too many advantages/idols in the game (with the high points being Cirie being voted out because all the other five people were immune, and then Ben’s win last season due to the fire-making challenge “advantage”/twist) and this could potentially lead to the same.

Maybe someday they’ll have a New Yorker who isn’t abrasive and obnoxious. (They do exist, right?) Volunteering that your team leader may have made a bad choice isn’t “truth telling”, it’s just being an asshole and putting a target on your back for no reason.

In all the promos for this season I got the impression that they would be bringing back the contestants who made bad choices, not just the props. I was misinformed.

Jacob is on my shortlist for an all returning players season i want to see: every player is a weirdo from previous seasons. Philip, Coach, Jacob and Debbie are definetly coming back, who else? It’s a season of goats.

Not sure why the losing tribe put two swimmers on the same leg who could dive 8 ft to pull a latch on underwater cage. They should have switched the P.E. Teacher and the Harvard Guy

I guess they wanted the PE teacher to shoot the baskets, but Ryan and Donathan should have spoken up that they were uncomfortable diving that deep.

BTW, that challenge was supposed to be the first immunity challenge, but there were rough seas that day so they had to pull an audible. The Latino gal (Gonzales) that got voted out said she was a good swimmer, so she could have been useful in the water challenge.

I do like the younger cast this season. Lots of eye candy. Chris is the model from NYC/Florida and “Do-Me-Nick” is the Italian guy.

Chris is the male model. Since the producers felt a need to put that in the description on the bottom of the screen every time he appeared. In case it wasn’t obvious that he’s male.