Survivor 44

It’s also fewer episodes, though, right? So less advertising gets sold.

I don’t think so. Same as always, no?

Including the reunion show, seasons 1-40 typically ranged from 14 to 16 episodes. I think one or two seasons clocked in at 13 and one or two at 17.

Since COVID, season 41 was 13, 42 was 12, 43 was 13, and according to IMDb, the current season 44 is slated for 13.

Sorry to barge in here with my ignorance. I’ve never watched this show. My question is: the show began in 1997. If they’re up to season 44 there must be multiple seasons a year I assume?

It started in the summer of 2000. They air two seasons per year, one in Fall and one in Spring.

I was thinking it was 20+ during 39-day seasons, so I stand corrected.

Survivor AU runs 24 episodes a season, but I think they stay out there 44 days.

You know? I really enjoyed this tribe switch. It was a great way to do it, and it played out well. However, it should have been done earlier. When there’s just four people, you know what is going to go on.

This was fantastic from a gameplay point of view. The three outcasts got an idol and go to a new tribe guaranteeing a disruption in that tribe no matter the outcome.

Josh play was the right one, and the loser tonight was really dumb… sure she didnt know what she had, but with Josh playing his idol and with three people left, there no hesitation, you play yours as well.
Chances that someone voted for you are pretty high and with chances of a tie are high as well, she was dumb.

I wonder how they worked assigning the new buff colors to the transplants. Yeah, maybe all three happened to walk down a path that led to a new-to-them tribe color, but I think the odds are more for one (or even all three) to have gotten their original tribe’s color by chance.

So, I’d guess they had a crewmember at each ending point with a phone or such, and if Player Green started down Path Green they got word to him to swap what buff is in the bag. And then tell the corresponding person on a different path to make the reverse switch or else you’d end up with two people added to the same tribe. (Wouldn’t that have been interesting? Have Tika gain two people and one of the other tribes drop by one? Or have Tika be the tribe that lost a member without gaining one back?)

But my main thought is that the swap will introduce a basic unfairness since the tribes were at different counts. Someone was going to move from a tribe of five to the tribe of 4, basically meaning to a ‘worse’ tribe given that they’d lost more challenges. And someone from the production team is going to be deciding whether you get to go to the other ‘good’ one or the ‘loser’ one.

When you put it like that, it seems like they would have had to choose the new tribes beforehand. As in, each station had multiple buffs of a single color, with no random chance involved. And yes, this still requires production to place the buffs after the paths were chosen.

If they were choosing at the same time – and assuming they couldn’t pull out the color of their original tribe (meaning they don’t switch) – then duplicates become pretty darn likely in a fair draw. If original orange player pulls blue, for example, original green has to pull orange (because blue has just been taken) and therefore original blue has to pull green. If it were a fair pick, I think it comes down to a 50% * 50% * 50% = only a 12.5% chance all three go to three different new tribes.

I suppose one of the paths could have been radically shorter – say a 10 minute walk vs 30 minutes – in order for production to allow the first pick to be truly random, but that seems both unlikely and unnecessary. (eg: Orange gets the short path, and their choices are blue and green.) But once a single person makes a choice the other two are locked in unless doubling up (or tripling!) is allowed, which seems unlikely. So at least two of the people must have had all choices as the same color. Simpler to just have production choose ahead of time and put a single color buff for all three.

Agreed, but of course (as you allude) it would have been futile since her idol was fake anyway.

I actually started pondering whether or not the three new idols were even real. It’s only a very small step to go from “here’s a fake idol and an authentic note to go with it for you to do with as you please” to production planting their own fake idols. From the perspective of the person that gets fooled, it IS production lying to them because of the note.

I agree with anyone who thinks she should have played her idol. It was fake(she did…not have a real one, right?), but she would not have looked a fool since it was very real.

Yep, it was fake. Carolyn planted it with the whole red X sticks thing. The most infuriating part of her not playing it was the confessional where she told the camera “If Josh plays an idol, I’m playing mine.” Then Josh plays his idol and she doesn’t play hers, and she gets the votes. Stupid!

In exit interviews she says she believed there was a real rift between Yam Yam and Carolyn, which to their credit they played up quite well at tribal.

It wouldn’t need to be that complicated. You could just radio to the first crew member “Blue is on path 1.” Then that crew member randomly chooses either orange or green, which in turn determines which buffs the other two plant.

That was quite possibly the funniest episode of Survivor ever.

Highlights:

  • Carson and Kane nerding out
  • Matt and Frannie nerd love
  • Carolyn being ignored at the journey
  • Yam Yam calling out the fake idol immediately
  • Josh: “Hooray! I mean it’s sad. But hooray!”

And I have to give it to the guy. He stuck it out 9 days, and didn’t wimp out. He was taken out by Medical, and it was a good pull. He didn’t want to quit, but his body just couldn’t go on.

“WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE POKEMON!” ::squeeee!::

I’m totally rooting for Matt and Frannie. I don’t think we’ve had a Survivor romance since Boston Rob and Ambuh.

Is it supposed to be pronounced Jam-Jam or Yam-Yam?

His name is Yamil.

The text on the screen says Yam-Yam. But everyone is pronouncing it Jam-Jam.