Survivor: Guatemala Ep. 8 - "The Hidden Immunity Doll"

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Episode description from the 'Net:

Wasn’t that helpful, sports fans? I checked the TiVo website, and it gives exactly the same episode description, so either the usual text jockey is out sick today, or a vast conspiracy is afoot. But I did get the following info from CBS.com and my Survivor Insider this week:

[quote=Survivor Insider]
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[li]*Survivors learn that there is an Immunity idol hidden in the Guatemalan jungle, and the hunt begins.[/li][li]Given the choice to feast or challenge, several castaways choose to enjoy a large feast in front of the others instead of competing for Immunity. Is this a smart move, or will their hunger be their demise?[/ul][/li][/quote]

Any guesses on who goes for the green beans instead of the gusto? I am thinking Jamie, almost definitely. Maybe Bobby Jon? Gary? I don’t think Judd, because he’s so insecure and so into Stephelookatme! that he’ll go into the Immunity Challenge so he can impress her. Plus, he’s a yutz. I don’t think any of the women are going to trade food for possible immunity, even though Danni needs to eat.

No idea who’s getting voted out. I almost don’t care. Except for Gary and Rafe, I kind of hate everyone who’s left. Some days I wish I were a god – I would very much like to unleash my wrath on reality TV bozos. Of course, if I were a god, I’d probably the god of something relatively benign, like howler monkeys or stewed tomatoes. And how can people get good and worked up over a plague of stewed tomatoes?

My suggestion for this week’s theme song: “Loser,” by Beck. Or, if that is not a good musical selection, then how about “Stupid,” by Toad the Wet Sprocket?

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I think Bobby Jon will choose to eat. He’s too damn dumb to realize Immunity is more important.

I like Rafe, but Gary doesn’t really impress me. I like Lydia more each week. I can see her coasting into the Final Two.

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my choice would be **‘Creep’ ** by Radiohead

If there’s beer at the feast, Judd is so there. Skeletor should get a free pass to be there.

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I like the sound of this Immunity Challenge. It will tell us where the Survivors think they stand in the pecking order.

The ones worried about their necks (or the Gold Star, competitive types) will skip the feast and look for the idol.

The less competitive players or those players who feel safe will probably take the meal.

The funny thing will be if those looking for the idol notice who thinks they are safe and decide to target them.

My gut on those who feast versus those who forage (nice, huh?):

FEAST
Judd- I think he is comfortable…for some reason.
Jamie- Same thing.
Rafe- I think he is comfortable

FORAGE
Gary- He always seems worried
Danni- Doesn’t need food apparently
Lydia- Too hardworking to sit it out.
Brandon- I couldn’t see him sitting out.
Bobby Jon- He still has to make it past this week to realize his dream.
Cindy- She is the odd man out here. No way she is resting.

FYI, it appears next spring’s installment of Survivor will in fact be Jeff Probst’s last.

Also, has anyone heard Amy’s post-boot interview? What was her take on Gary?

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Answering my own question:

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Excellent choice. It pretty much describes them all, doesn’t it? Except Rafe. I have no real idea why, but I think I might lurve him, just a little. I hadn’t considered that there might be beer at the feast. With that possibility in mind, my new list is:
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[li]Feast: Jamie, Judd, Bobby Jon, Gary[/li][li]Forage: Steph, Lydia, Cindy, Danni, Brandon[/li][li]Fickle: Rafe[/li][/ul]
I have no idea what Rafe is going to do, so I created a special category for him. I expect to see some sort of bargaining going on before the IC tonight. Rafe has quite a few allies, I think, so he will definitely make sure he is safe either way before he makes a decision.

Brandon is kind of a toss-up, too, but I think he will err on the side of not pissing Stephenie off, so he can use that as a reason to stay in it a little longer. “Look, I went for Immunity, not like those other bozos, who just don’t care about winning!” I hope Bobby Jon goes for immunity, but I think he might choose food. Not very bright or strategic, that one.

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WOW - an actual TWIST! That I did not see coming at all! From now on, in honor of Dave Barry, who rocks my socks, I will be referring to “our large, main” Immunity Emblem as Earnest, and “our small, emergency backup” Immunity Idol as Zippy. Carry on.

(PS - TiVo rules, by the way!)

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I think Judd will choose the booze. At least, I’m hoping he does. :slight_smile:

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Next week’s preview:

Judd yaks in the shelter!

WTH?

As for the current episode, meh. When Judd calls you a dumbass, you just might be a dumbass. Steph continues to bug the hell out of me. Danni continues to waste away, but somehow makes bones look hot.

That immunity challenge was pure evil. Loved it!

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Jamie’s got all the arrogance of Boston Rob. But none of the schmooze. He really should have gone tonight.

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You guys … this has not been a good week for me, reality-show-wise. I lost the Gaghans, and now I’ve lost fair Brandon. Boo hoo hoo and crap on a stick! There should be more players like him in the game, even if he sometimes mixed his metaphors, and even if he wears that stupid hat. Bye Brandon! Call me!

Believe me: I am so over Jamie. I liked him for like 10 minutes, and then he opened his mouth. Typical. Hey, Jaime? I like my men smart and funny, and you’re neither. You’re just a hairy smelly old fool who sold his soul for barbecue chicken. Jackhole. Now I really wish I could rain down a plague of stewed tomatoes upon him.

Movin’ on up, in my eyes: Bobby Jon. I have to admit that I have sorely underappreciated him in the past. I think he’s pretty much toast, now, but I have to give him big ups for not smashing that pot over Jamie’s head. I totally would have. His ability to keep his temper in check might help him stay around a few more eps. Then again, maybe not. And have I mentioned that Jamie is a tool?

Anybody have any ideas on whether Zippy was actually found? I wonder. And also: now that Gary has won Earnest at least once, is he going to be targeted before Bobby Jon? The pecking order was very clearly defined as Brandon, BJ, Danni, then Gary. What gives with that? Did nobody think he could actually win something? Oooooh … maybe they all do know about his NFL past.

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Oh, and it looks like we all forgot, but: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!

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What I don’t understand is that Rafe, Cindy, and Lydia have got to know they’re at the bottom of the 6-person alliance, with jerkwads Judd, Jamie, and Stephanie calling the shots. If they truly believe any promises instant-turncoat Judd and Steph/Jamie have made about playing fair when they get down to six, they are just idiots. Judd/Jamie/Steph have a greater chance of winning individual immunity, a tighter bond, and no apparent qualms about picking off anyone outside of their trio.

If they crossed over to the 4-person alliance, it’s not like their position could get any worse - and they’d be teaming with much nicer people. All that talk at tribal council about having a heart and considering character - bah. :mad:

Even next week’s preview failed to inspire me. So Judd yaks in the shelter. Yawn. If his beer/asshole shenanigans and Jamie’s feast/asshole shenanigans didn’t change their votes, I don’t think anything will.

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The Challenge was a little different than we anticipated. AND SO MUCH BETTER! That little wild card hanging over their heads for the rest of the season is a BEAUTIFUL addition. Of course, if someone finds it that REALLY needs it, we will all swear Burnett tipped them off…

And so, the less anticipated, highly derivative RICH RANKINGS! (N or Y for Tribe (Nakum or Yaxha) and Last Week’s Ranking in Parentheses).

FORGOT TO FILE A 1040- I guess you couldn’t outwit everyone!

Jim,Morgan,Brianna, Brooke, Blake,Brian,Margaret,Amy- At some point in every season, I realize these people are truly the lucky ones.
Brandon- (Y/Tom)- A big fall for Brandon. I just thought Cindy would be smart enough to flip.

JUDD’S CATEGORY- You’re Judd.

Jamie- (N/Merge)- He did so poorly, he out Judd-ed Judd. Does he not realize what a “jury” is? It’s official. Jamie is the most unlikeable player in Survivor history. Of course, like Barry Bonds breaking Mark McGuire’s home run record, the previous record holder was Judd…

EATING BEEF JERKY- You’re still playing, but you’re praying for a tribe scramble!

Bobby Jon- (Y/Jerky)- I dislike him about as much as Judd and Jamie. The machismo testosterone in this tribe is really getting on my nerves…and I am a Texan!

WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A MERGE?-

Judd- (N/Judd)- You know? He was solid this week. He wisely chose the challenge over the feast. He called out Jamie for being a jerk. And in general, he was not the worst guy in camp. And his “biggest fish” theory was worthy of Solomon himself. Of course, after getting bumped up two spots in the Rich Ratings, he’ll probably go puke in the shelter next week…

HEY! LOOK AT HIS MOHAWK-You might make the merge, but you’re grimacing from the jury row!

Danni- (Y/Rat)- See the look in her eyes when Brandon got the boot? That wasn’t sadness for Brandon. It was self-pity. She knows the numbers are not in her favor. She can get back in it, though. Survivor always makes one major alliance shift in the later innings, but she’ll have to work to get back on top. I think she will. I still predict she’ll win.

LOOKING FOR A BIG TOM TO ENGLISH DICTIONARY- Big Tom has spent more combined days on the show than anyone. But he didn’t quite grab the brass ring.

Cindy-- (N/Mohawk)- Maybe she did the right thing. Maybe she has a strategy in mind. But doesn’t she seems like the type of player who is playing for longevity and not the million dollars? Content to stay stay the course just to stay in the game? Because there is no doubt she is #6 in her tribe. Jamie made that pretty clear. But she still has the best chance to turn the game upside down.
Lydia- (N/Tom)- Go along. Get along. I like her, but I wish she was the nice lady down the street, not a contestant on Survivor.
Rafe- (N/Tom)- I’m proud of Rafe for not wussing. People who go with their hearts on Survivor sit in the jury. Bold call time- right after Bobby Jon is ousted, Rafe will orchestrate a movement to dump Jamie, Steph and Judd to form an alliance with Danni, Gary, Cindy and Lydia. Of course, he is my vote for “Survivor Most Like to Pull an Ian.”

ARE YOU A RAT OR A SNAKE?- Reserved for a MAXIMUM of two players. You have to be in the driver’s seat for this spot.

Gary- (Y/Rat)- In the pecking order of who gets ousted, your name didn’t come up, Mr. Hawkins. I think the ouster of Brandon and then Bobby Jon only helps him. Rafe likes him. Everyone likes him. If he can manage that stupid football secret, then he is in good shape.
Stephenie- (N/Mohawk)- With the numbers as they are, and with everyone else behaving as they are, she might just win this thing. She’s the Nakum with the best chance, so she gets the spot THIS WEEK.

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Middleman gets a leg up this week and posts early! Enjoyable as always; thanks, Mid.

The ‘hidden idol’ is a great idea! I’m hoping someone finds it and we don’t know who until they haul it out unexpectedly a couple of episodes later. I was really hoping Brandon scored it this week and the editors were waiting to spring it on everyone. Alas.

What the hell is with the speech patterns of Jamie, Bobby Jon, Brandon?!? Brandon seems to understand the other two, but I’m darned if I understand Jamie and BJ this week. I thought I spoke Southern/Rural, but they sound almost patois to me. Anyone else?

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My guess is that Gary is benefitting from being the last original Yaxha - the other original Yaxhas (Stephanie, Jamie, Rafe, and Lydia) may be keeping him for last for sentimental reasons. Or maybe they figure he’s a potential ally if things go bad.

I think Jamie and Judd have a strategy - they’re both trying to be “the obnoxious guy who everybody wants to take to the final two because nobody in the jury will vote for him” or as we call it in Survivor “the Jon Dalton”. Unfortunately for the rest of the players and us, they’re now in competition for the role.

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I bet if someone had found the idol, they would have showed it.

I don’t think the 3 will get knocked off in order, something always changes and alliances shift real fast.

They really need subtitles with Bobby Jon and Jamie. Nope Squeegee, I can’t understand a word, and I thought it was because I was a Northerner.

I won’t miss the hat. …what else…what else…Not much. yawn episode. yawn season.

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Why did Brandon go last night? Is it because he was more likeable than Jamie and they want Jamie to be around to take to the end? I’ve been watching the show from season 1 and I still have trouble wrapping my head around why some people are voted off.

I had to turn up the volume when the three of them were talking because of the accents.

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As always, ya gotta love the editors.
Shot of the howler monkey, yawning and scratching. Cut to a shot of Jamie, yawning and scratching. :smiley:

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May the hidden idol be used over and over, or must it be surrendered upon first use? Also, if you find it and don’t tell, don’t you risk someone else finding it too, and then taking possession of it and telling?