Oh I can’t stand these juries members crying about the friendship they had with the final two. Lex? Lex is a fucking hypocrite. I don’t recall him crying about friendship when he kicked Ethan out of the game. All of the jury members would rather be in the final two and would have had to vote out a “friend” to get there. Didn’t they themselves vote out other “friends” just to make it to the jury?
I thought these people were “All-Stars?” Should they then have known that backstabbing was a part of the game? Shouldn’t they have known friendship and money don’t mix? I can’t stand these people that don’t realize that the shit they are bitching about other people is the same stuff they already did, or would have had to do to make it to the final.
So while this pitting specifically deals with the show, it has more to do with the blatant hypocrisy and immaturity that these people are showing. So, Survivor jury, shut the fuck up.
P.S. I was tempted to put this in Cafe Society but felt it was more of a pitting rather than a general discussion of the show. If the mods want to move it, I understand.
I certainly agree. Those people need to grow the fuck up. Backstabbing is, and always has been, part of success in Survivor. How they couldn’t understand that having played the game twice is beyond me.
You are aware that most of that “reality” t.v. stuff is scripted, right? And I’m not just referring to the “events.” Or is the post akin to talking about wrestling: you know; it’s fake, but it makes for some engaging debates.
Shi Ann was one of the most interesting people and even if she did not win, she at least went out with class. None of the whining bullshit shown by many of the others.
High Cheese, there’s no need to script Survivor. When you put eighteen people into a hellish situation, they write their own lines with no problem. Why have the added expense of a script writer and professional actors?
Lex’s essential point–that he made no promises to the people he kicked out, even if they were friends from before the game–is entirely valid. That said, you don’t get points for being indignant over such things unless you’re willing to take some heat for your own (non-deal) betrayals of friendship.
On the other hand, Rob is a completely tactless s.o.b. Good god, how hard would it have been to apologize for calling Big Tom’s dumbass son a dumbass?
Totally agree with the OP. Mindless, immature bunch of fucks were Lex, Alicia, and Tom (I mean, a fake handshake? What are you, 10?). Worse, they still weren’t over it at the reunion show.
Bubba, if you or High Cheese could provide a citatation that shows that gameshows like Survivor are scripted, I’ll eat my shoes. Reality shows like “Real World” and the dating shows are, but Survivor is a gameshow, and is strictly subject to pretty tight regulations. Ever since the gameshow scandals of the 50s there have been tight regulations.
Munch, I don’t think the 50’s gameshow rules apply here. The only thing the networks have to do to meet that standard is to not provide info that would give an unfair advantage to any contestant. And since its the contestants themselves who select or reject other contestants the networks can basically hide behind that selection process.
Its pretty easy to see that the “attention whores” who participate in those shows realize that their “on-air” time depends on how outrageous they can act. Villains seem to get more air time than get-alongs and the louder one can wail about being mistreated the better.
While I will admit “scripts” may be a strong accusation, its also hard to beleive that these people act the way that they do without some instruction.
But hey, believe what you want. If you enjoy it what’s the diff?
Bubba
I myself have some shoes made out of corn chips just in case I lose a bet.
Wouldn’t that be the exact definition of a script?
I’m not sure I understand.
Couldn’t agree with you more.
I think it’s been pretty thoroughly shown that the producers over-edit. For instance, in an interview I heard on the radio this season, one of the reactions from Lex during a tribal vote was made to look like he was reacting to what someone else was saying, (i.e. the REAL reaction was to what person A said, the edit made it look like he was reacting to what person B said).
There’s a big difference between judicious editing and “directing”. I would argue that the editing can be more deceiving, and thus the “directing” isn’t necessary and doesn’t take place. In fact, there was a lawsuit as a result of a contestant feeling that the producers were “directing” during Season 1 - it was dismissed as insubstantial.
I hate the show (except some of the events are cool). But it was Mother’s Day and the Wife wanted to watch it.
My favorites are references to Rob’s “selling out” his friends. Friends? WTF? You people didn’t even KNOW each other 3 months ago! The only reason you know each other *now *is because you signed up for a competetive elimination game–with only a couple common sense rules–for a million bucks! I think the chick that won it all did it the best way possible: Find a strong ally and lay him steadily for the duration of the game…he’ll do the alliance work and take hits in your stead if you’ve read him right.
The losers of the game are just that. Losers who let themselves get outplayed for a million bucks.
This was Survivor: All Stars, which consisted of hand picked contestants from previous seasons. So, no, they didn’t just meet 3 months ago (save for Rupert). Some of them have known each other for 5 years.
