Survivor: Palau - Week 2

I like him, too, but once again I am mystified by the choice of someone to go on this show who apparently doesn’t swim or barely knows how.

Harpie indeed. She bugs me already.
Who was it that kept saying to let it go? (I’m still having trouble sorting them all out.) I’m at a “certain age,” and I wouldn’t have gotten into a screaming fight about it, but I would have told her to shut up and let it go already. You’re at that beach, make the most of it.

Not quite. There is no such thing as “gym muscle” or “real muscle,” there’s just muscle. You build it the same way no matter how you get it and it performs the same way no matter how you got it.
The biggest difference between people who only work out in the gym and those who do constant physical work isn’t muscle at all but ENDURANCE. That has little to do with muscle and everything to do with cardiovascular health. Guys that lift to look buff frequently don’t do much in the way of cardio training. Also, there is a mental difference having mostly to do with the amount of pain someone can handle. Working as a firefighter (like Tom) or construction worker, you deal with pain and work through it, whereas in the gym most people simply stop if it they start experiencing pain.

Now, I’ve watched Survivor since pretty much the beginning, and now this post has raised some questions in my puny little mind. For starters, if The Powers That Be saw fit to give these guys sneakers, why not swimsuits as well? As a former competitive swimmer who has lately gone, as they say, “to pot,” I can attest to the fact that pretty little bras do NOTHING with one’s boobies when one is in the water (or out, actually, if you have cans like mine, quite frankly). Or, in other words: It’s hard to swim in them things, and the Editors That Be are just going to have to pixellate out all the naughty bits anyway, so why not just give them the damn suits? I strongly doubt that your average tankini is going to affect the “survival situation” all that much, you know?

(Don’t get me wrong, I like random nudity {either with or without context} just as much as the next person. I just think that butt cracks and boobies do not make particularly good TV - especially not on the networks, where they don’t actually SHOW the boobies and butt cracks.)

In Angie’s defense, I’d have to say that if I were stranded on an island and then I had to do this stupid physical in-the-water crap, I’d wear as little as possible too (especially if I were stranded with that lovely little Dolphin Boy - call me, Ian!). Ever have to swim any kind of distance in your clothes? It sucks. I’ve had to do it for both lifeguard and distance swimming training, and it really, really sucks. T-shirts and shorts get very heavy when they get wet, and they get in the way. With that being said - haven’t ANY of these women ever heard of a Jogbra? Great googly moogly.

Also, what happened to the “luxury items” referenced on the applications? Where did they go? Doesn’t anybody get them any more?

Actually he wasn’t. There were three of the women (I’ve not managed to put most names to faces yet) rowing to hold the boat in place, while Ian and Tom retrieved the flint. Coby was back on the island saying that he thought they were in the wrong place and weren’t going to find it.

Absolutely. (I have never been a lifeguard or a serious swimmer, but I have fallen out of boats. :slight_smile: ) In addition, even knowing my fat, pasty-white, dimpled ass was going to be televised, I’d rather have the people at home calling me names than have my only defense against the cold nights be soaking wet.

I spent some time last week thinking that. I believe my exact comment to my friend was “I bet Angie’s regretting that choice of bra, huh?” But given the clothes they were wearing, they got tricked (again) into thinking they were going to a photo shoot or something. I probably wouldn’t have worn the functional uniboob bra for that, either.

Wow. You’re right, he wasn’t making those comments.

I could have SWORN I saw him getting off the boat. He must have run down to help pull it ashore…

Correction about my correction: He WAS making those comments!

Yeah, that too.

But didn’t it occur to anyone at any time that this might be another setup? I mean, it’s not like it hasn’t happened before - why wouldn’t it happen again? Don’t these people watch the show they’re going to be on? (Of course, I am one of those nutcases who keeps spare panties and a toothbrush in her car, just in case, but I was a Girl Scout once - be prepared!)

Also … do they have sunscreen? Because Angie’s nips are going to get really crispy really soon, the way she’s hanging out of that balconette.

I thought they were stranded unexpectedly, too, but has anyone else noticed that Tom seems to be wearing swim trunks (not that I’m spending a lot of time watching Tom, or anything.)? Everyone else is running around in hacked off jeans, mini skirts, and underwear, but Tom’s looking pretty comfortable in swim trunks and a t-shirt. Do you think maybe he saw through their ruse?

I don’t agree with this. The muscles that some of the “gym” guys possess are only in targeted areas. They seem to be in the areas that look best. Guys like Tom have muscles that are more functional because they’re more developed in all areas not just the bicep (for example).

We’ve had lots of muscular guys on the show that just couldn’t do things. I don’t think it was just pain and endurance. Some of them didn’t appear to have functional muscles. They were just for show.

Here’s an article about core strengthening:

I think that’s what people are talking about when they talk about gym muscles.

It’s amazing what you can learn from the show’s website. According to Angie’s bio, she lives with her boyfriend. So there’s hope for you yet.

It also lists her favorite sport as “air hockey”. Gotta love that.

Can we pixillate the armpit hair? Please?

Ashlee has to be who Jeff Probst was talking about when he was on a local radio station and described one of the contestants as “a Mormon virgin, with breast implants”. Huh?

Another fun fact that the website reveals: There’s a contestant named Jennifer, and she looks pretty cute. I swear to Og I cannot recall seeing her or hearing her in either of the episodes.

You gotta love the fact that this is the tenth version of the show, that the contestant’s bios all list Survivor as their favorite show, and this seems to be the first time that contestants know how to build a fire.

It’s still inaccurate to say though. Most people who are serious about lifting know very well that you have to strengthen your core muscles…that’s why such things as dead lifts, squats and other hellaciously unpleasant exercises that most people would rather skip are still done.

That would only apply to people who go to the gym on a very casual basis and only work out the muscles that look good, but most serious lifters would work out those “secondary” muscles as well. Whether the guys on Survivor have been serious about it, I have no idea. I only bring the subject up because I’ve been in both places: I worked construction in college, I’ve been in the Army infantry and I’ve also lifted, and I know the real difference between the two.

I haven’t watched much Survivor but I’m watching this season. If for some insane reason I was selected to be on the next version of the show, you can be damn certain that the rest of my waking hours before I got on the airplane would be spent practicing and taking lessons on swimming, strength training, spear fishing, fire making, etc. How is this not obvious?

My wife, who has watched all of the seasons, told me that they are supplied with sun screen and shaving razors and that the woman can wear some make-up during the end of the show voting meetings.

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I suppose we can only really go by what we see on the show and so far, there seems to be some evidence that some of these guys have muscles that are showy but not too functional. Whether they’re serious lifters or not (and working their core muscles or not), I don’t know, but I’d rather have Tom on my team than a guy with big muscles who can’t seem to do much with them except look pretty.

Is it just me, or is this cast in general rather breast-intensive? I can’t watch a whole episode without a sudden craving for…milk.

There’s the possibility they made several trips with different people which were all edited together for brevity, but as we saw it Coby wasn’t among the flint rescuers.

Not sure that this is true - please see here. When the survivors used to bring luxury items, sometimes they would bring a razor (for example, Sean Keniff from Survivor: Borneo). Later in the game they can WIN razors and makeup in a reward challenge - usually this is after the merge, when people are starting to get way past “funky” and they start to emit visible smell rays. But otherwise the production / crew does not provide anything in the way of “comfort” items (razors, sunscreen, etc.). In extreme emergencies (i.e., 3rd degree sunburn), a medical crew is available, but it will probably put you out of the game. As for makeup - only the jury members get to wear that (if they brought it with them, or if they acquired somehow after they were voted out). If it isn’t in camp, the “active” players don’t get access to it.

Oh, and Smeg? Yes. But that has been the general trend since after the second season or so. (Allow me to refer you to Heidi Strobel {Amazon} and Lisa Keiffer {Vanuatu}.) The only female cast member this season who I can say with 100% accuracy is all-natural is Janu.

I think he just rushed down the boat and I saw him helping bring the boat ashore. Still smart, but not as good as I had thought.