I don’t think Jessica would have won because, well, she’s Jessica. She just didn’t play in a way befitting of a champion.
I’m blown away by what wonders makeup can do to bug eyes.
Ken actually did to Will EXACTLY what Jess did to him earlier in the season, which he was upset about at the time.
I really want someone to interview Ken to see why he thought that was a good idea. I think he just took being the target so personally that he stopped thinking logically.
I’m sure Adam wishes he hadn’t burned his Immunity Idol, but I don’t think he made a bad decision to play it, as they clearly weren’t confident of Will’s vote. Not a bad idea to have an insurance policy.
I had grown to like Zeke and then I was beginning to dislike him. Pretty sure that’s a testament to the editors’ talents. I suspect he’s a good guy IRL.
Fully expecting a Bret meltdown this week.
Double eviction 1 hour episode tonight.
Finale is next week Dec 14.
You do realize today is Tuesday, yes?
Well, I do now! :smack:
it’s OK, we can talk about it now. All in all, I can’t really fault Jay for his play.
When Adam told Jay about his mother’s cancer and Jay pulled the buff over his face, I thought for sure he was doing it either because he thought Adam was lying or because he didn’t want to hear about it.
And that puzzle challenge was awesome. I’d buy a home version of it if I could.
How stupid to vote out Sunday. You WANT to go to the final with her worthless ass.
That’s why you vote her out. Everyone else would rather bring her to the final than bring you.
If Sunday is in the final three, then she is occupying a space that Adam, Ken, David, and Hannah want
Hannah may have little chance to win the game, but she has ZERO Chance to win the game if Sunday is one of the Final Three and Hannah is on the jury. IIRC, the longer you last in the game, the more money you get.
Looks like all the reward challenges are done, which means Adam gave Jay a worthless “Steal Reward” advantage.
And both of last night’s challenges were far more interesting than most of the endurance challenges we have had lately.
This is has been one of my favorite seasons on Survivor. At least post swap and merge. The only player that left before the merge that I wished made the merge was Gamer girl on Millennial tribe who was voted
Who do you want sitting with you at the final 3: Sunday or Jay? Sunday or Adam? Sunday or Matt? Sunday or David? Who is going to make it harder for you to GET to the final 3? Sunday or Jay? Sunday or Adam? etc.
Well that’s exactly it, right? Every one of the Hannah, David, Ken, Adam 4-some trust each other more without Sunday in the game.
Consider you are Hannah (who seemed to be pushing the Sunday plan the strongest). Think about the Final-6 vote, knowing that Jay may have an idol (although hopefully not). Which of the following Final 6 gives you a better chance to stick around:
Jay, Brett, Sunday, Hannah, Adam, Ken
Jay, Brett, David, Hannah, Adam Ken
Seems pretty clear to me that the second grouping (especially if Jay doesn’t have an idol), is FAR superior. It’s actually extremely hard to figure out how Hannah doesn’t get to Final 3 with the current tribe makeup. And a Brett, Hannah, Ken final is probably just as good for her as one with Sunday on it.
You can do the same calculation with the all of the rest of them and except for Adam I think it’s better to have Sunday out.
That’s one of the reason I’m liking this season so much. I can pretty well figure out the logic for most of the “A” players’ moves, and they all seem to be playing at a pretty high level.
I also really loved the Adam/Jay dynamic. I appreciate that they seem to actually like each other as people while pretty explicitly playing the game against each other. Too many players blur that line into nonresistance.
On preview: What you (speaking as Hannah here) don’t want is a possible group of 3-4 players that ALL have a better shot at winning without you than with you. And leaving Brett, Jay, and Sunday all in the game gives too many other paths to a majority vote for guys like Adam and Ken.
I really liked Hannah’s move last night. It clearly shows that she knows what the rest think of her, so she eliminated her top competition as ‘goat’. Hannah doesn’t want to sit next to another ‘goat’. If the vote is going to go to a ‘goat’ she wants to be the only one there. Now she has to hope for a bittercakes jury or that she can actual sell ousting Sunday as her own big move.
Hey, I agree it’s smart for Hannah, but that’s because she sucks at the challenges and is basically just another Sunday. For the other players, the longer Jay or Dave or Adam are in the game, the likelier they will not be. Or, if they are, then you lose to one of them at Final. So good for Hannah. She finally makes a strong strategic move, eliminates her competition for “most wanted to sit next to at the final” and tricks everyone else into helping her out.
If you’re Ken or Matt, you may NEVER get another chance to vote out David, and if you’re sitting next to him at Final, you lose.
I’m certainly not saying it was a good move for them. I think a lot of times the reason things happen isn’t always clear to us because of the editing. Sometimes the editing may be deliberate (so as to not reveal a tribal) and other times simply because there is sooooooooooo much footage. So it may be that Hannah was being much more adamant about Sunday then we saw and that there may have been a worse outcome for them that was discussed.
I also wish that Mari was still around. She seemed like she would have been one heck of a player. I hope she gets a 2nd shot.
I’m gonna assume you mean Adam? Or maybe Brett?
Either way, I agree that it was probably a bad move for Ken, as Sunday was probably the only person he was likely to beat. He’s not really a player anyway, from what we’ve seen, just a vote for Hannah and David.
So really it’s down to it being bad for Adam and Brett that David is still around. Which it clearly is for Brett, but there was nothing he could do about it
For Adam I’m not so sure. He could push really hard on Hannah and Ken to vote out David (which he kind of did). Or he could get a Brett, Jay, and Sunday to vote with him against David - but he’d have to do it while still getting Jay to play his idol.
Then he has a final 6 of: Adam, Ken & Hannah (voting together and mad at him), Brett & Sunday (voting together), and Jay (possibly with an idol). I honestly think he might have a better shot at winning in the current configuration, certainly of making the Final TC. Jay and David are still there to be the top targets the next two times around, and Hannah and David still trust him. I think he’s thinking: get to a final 4 with Brett, Ken, and Hannah and he has a shot with his story at the final TC.
I think Adam is in a really strong position. He’s not top threat. He’s just far enough down that he can convincingly argue to vote out the top threats: David and Jay.
Assuming the final four is: Adam, Ken, Hannah and Brett. That’s where he might be in trouble. But if he wins final immunity, he stands a very good chance of winning, assuming no bittercakes jury throwing it to Hannah. Brett also has to feel good about his chances to take it all. He’s got a lot of good paths to the final and he was on the side of many of the people on the jury. The only thing that could do him in is if everybody realizes he’s got an awful lot of friends up there. David, Hannah, Ken and Adam may not want Brett at the end for this reason. They’d maybe prefer to go to the end with allies and say to the jury, “You might hate us, but you’ve got to vote for one of us.”
It ought to be a great finale as these are some good players and I’m not quite sure where they’ll go.
Excellent observation. While I’ve been ambivalent about Jay, I won’t be mad if he wins, mostly because he knows the game is not the same as real life.
My wife said last night, “I don’t think there’s ever been a final six before where I liked all of them.” And I’d have to agree. Maybe some are playing a better game than others, but there’s nobody left that I really dislike.