Suspensions should hurt.

[fachverwirrt]

@Dangerosa

Gee, the amount of misogyny we’ve had on this board (to give but one example of really jerkish IMPORTANT behavior), and your panties are in a bunch over spoilering Star Wars?

@Budget_Player_Cadet

^^This.

In a nearby thread, we have a poster denying that there’s any substantial difference between referring to white people and black people as monkeys. This is supposed to be less shitty, jerky behavior than telling people some plot detail of the new star wars movie?

Yeah, the guy was a dick and unapologetic. We have unapologetic dicks here all the time. Leave him his warning and be done with it, don’t start a stupid personal vendetta. It’s a freakin’ movie. Not even a profound one, just an 7-8/10 pulp Sci-fi action movie, the likes of which we get pretty much every year. It’s not going to change your life.

Thing can’t be bad, because other thing is worse! GUYS, STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THING! HAVEN’T YOU HEARD ABOUT OTHER THING?!?!??!?!?

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

Yes, but the title of this thread is suspensions should hurt. In other words, spoilering Star Wars should be a suspendable offense and should hurt - but misogyny and racism - hey, those should be A-OK with the community - those we should tolerate.

Most blatantly misogynistic or racist posts lead to insta-bans, so nobody needs to start threads about how the punishments are too light. We can argue about whether people who are always bringing up scientific racism or anti-feminism should be punished, but they are at least trying to debate (usually). The post at issue here was not a good faith attempt at debate or satire, or whatever, it was just somebody being a dick. It’s the SW equivalent of starting a GD thread titled “fuck them ni**ers!”

If there is a particular example of misogyny or racism that gets a pass and you don’t think it should, I encourage you to start another thread about it. I’ll probably be in agreement with you.

[Skywatcher]

@Rigamarole

Clearly, some people’s lives were ruined by my saying a very minor thing about a fantasy movie (which is not a surprise in the context of the painfully predictable movie either) that most people have already seen, and are talking about all over the internet, in a thread about that fantasy movie. I still don’t quite get how that works, and nobody has actually managed to articulate how they were victimized and this now ruins everything for them (it actually doesn’t, by the way). It is an extremely childish thing to get so worked up over, and if you’re going to do so, you should have to defend your own neuroses, not the other way around.

I dare you to try this shit with Game of Thrones.

[cochrane]

@FloatyGimpy

This doesn’t even make any sense. Star Wars is a shitty movie because people don’t want it spoiled before they see it??

And it’s extremely disingenuous to keep saying the thread was about Star Wars spoilers. You’d have to be actually retarded to think that. Are you retarded? Or just a dick?

Why can’t he be both?

[Rigamarole]

@cochrane

Why can’t he be both?

Aren’t you the guy who gets so pissed off about the personal inconvenience of receiving an Amber Alert that there’s an abducted fucking child in your vicinity that you go into a rage?

[Acsenray]

@Rigamarole

(it actually doesn’t, by the way)

Apologize or bugger off.

[leftfield6]

@Dangerosa

…but misogyny and racism - hey, those should be A-OK with the community - those we should tolerate.

Please. No one is saying this. Or at least I’m not. I don’t know the other thread that you are referring to, but yeah, there are lots of assholes. At this moment, in this thread, we are saying this particular asshole acted like a dick, and should be punished accordingly. No one is saying take his punishment out of the supply that we use for racists. Because, you know, we have an unlimited supply. No need to ration it out.

[Czarcasm]

@Acsenray

Apologize or bugger off.

“Or”?
Did you mean to say “and”?

[Budget_Player_Cadet]

@Grrr

I’m pretty sure, if one tried really hard, one might be able to participate in BOTH of those threads. As people tend to be multifaceted.

One track minded people tend to be annoying no matter how righteous the cause is they’re droning on about.

Obviously people can be multifaceted, and I’d be pissed at Rigmarole too if I had read that thread before catching the movie. The point being, it’s not policy here to ban people or give them long suspensions for being even gigantic perpetual assholes with no redeeming value, so why start here?

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@leftfield6

No one is saying take his punishment out of the supply that we use for racists. Because, you know, we have an unlimited supply. No need to ration it out.

You get a banhammer! And you get a banhammer!

[Grrr]

@Budget_Player_Cadet

Obviously people can be multifaceted, and I’d be pissed at Rigmarole too if I had read that thread before catching the movie. The point being, it’s not policy here to ban people or give them long suspensions for being even gigantic perpetual assholes with no redeeming value, so why start here?

I’m actually okay with a warning.

[leftfield6]

@Grrr

I’m actually okay with a warning.

Yeah, I’ve never stated that a suspension is the right answer here,much less the dreaded banhammer based on what the asshole has done so far.

But, by god, if we need’em, we have an unlimited supply.

[iiandyiiii]

@Rigamarole

Clearly, some people’s lives were ruined by my saying a very minor thing about a fantasy movie (which is not a surprise in the context of the painfully predictable movie either) that most people have already seen, and are talking about all over the internet, in a thread about that fantasy movie. I still don’t quite get how that works, and nobody has actually managed to articulate how they were victimized and this now ruins everything for them (it actually doesn’t, by the way). It is an extremely childish thing to get so worked up over, and if you’re going to do so, you should have to defend your own neuroses, not the other way around.

You did a jerk move and hurt some people for no reason. You didn’t kill anyone or ruin any lives, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t do a shitty thing that decreased some people’s enjoyment of a movie.

Decent people recognize when they do shitty things by mistake, admit to it, apologize, and honestly try to improve themselves. You’re making it a much, much bigger deal by demonstrating how much you aren’t a decent person so far.

[iiandyiiii]

@Steophan

No. If knowing a few plot details about it spoils the film for you, it’s a shitty film. If, however, the script, acting, cinematography, direction, and so forth are good, then knowing a few plot points will make only a marginal difference, if any, to the enjoyment of it.

To say otherwise would be like saying that seeing a couple of pages of sheet music would spoil listening to a symphony. It’s utter bollocks.

That said, out of respect for other people I won’t “spoil” things. But I will think they’re overly precious twats for worrying about it.

It decreased some people’s enjoyment. Not the end of the world, but still a shitty thing to do, especially because it takes absolutely no effort whatsoever to avoid doing it.

[Typo_Negative]

@Rigamarole

Aren’t you the guy who gets so pissed off about the personal inconvenience of receiving an Amber Alert that there’s an abducted fucking child in your vicinity that you go into a rage?

Word to the wise. Apologize, then lay low for awhile. Don’t think about it. Just do it.

[erysichthon]

@Rigamarole

Clearly, some people’s lives were ruined by my saying a very minor thing about a fantasy movie (which is not a surprise in the context of the painfully predictable movie either) that most people have already seen, and are talking about all over the internet, in a thread about that fantasy movie. I still don’t quite get how that works, and nobody has actually managed to articulate how they were victimized and this now ruins everything for them (it actually doesn’t, by the way). It is an extremely childish thing to get so worked up over, and if you’re going to do so, you should have to defend your own neuroses, not the other way around.

Rigamarole, I noticed that you’ve been all over the map with different excuses for your assholish behavior. Let’s review (and I’m obviously paraphrasing here):

1. The thread was about spoilers!
2. How does this possibly affect anyone’s enjoyment of the film?
3. The movie’s been out for almost two weeks! Most people have seen it already!
4. Meh, it’s a crappy movie anyway, so who cares?
5. You’re all being childish. I am above such immature nonsense.
6. This is the Pit and I can say whatever I want! Show me the rule I broke!

I don’t know how old you are, Rigamarole. I’m guessing you’re in your 20s, because most adults over 30 have learned an important life lesson, which I will impart to you now: multiple excuses are always less convincing than one. The fact that you’re throwing out a potpourri of defenses is a dead giveaway that you deliberately set out to be an asshole when you posted your spoiler. And now you’re doubling down and refusing to apologize simply because you’re having too much fun being an asshole.

[Guinastasia]

@Rigamarole

Aren’t you the guy who gets so pissed off about the personal inconvenience of receiving an Amber Alert that there’s an abducted fucking child in your vicinity that you go into a rage?

Aren’t you the guy who was willing to let a homeless dude die of hypothermia because it might “foster dependence” or something?

[Rigamarole]

@iiandyiiii

You did a jerk move and hurt some people for no reason. You didn’t kill anyone or ruin any lives, but that doesn’t mean you didn’t do a shitty thing that decreased some people’s enjoyment of a movie.

Decent people recognize when they do shitty things by mistake, admit to it, apologize, and honestly try to improve themselves. You’re making it a much, much bigger deal by demonstrating how much you aren’t a decent person so far.

Honestly, I would have if the reaction wasn’t so ridiculously overblown. As I said there and here, I wasn’t intending to incite that kind of reaction, and so contend that I wasn’t trolling (come on, I’ve been here 10 years with 10k+ posts, not something one does just to go for the impact of the long-burn troll). But I nonetheless accept the warning and I can be reasonable about being more careful to spoiler-box in the future. That’s not a problem, and I can appreciate the reasonable moderation rather than the “OMG OFF WITH HIS HEAD PERMA-INSTABAN!!!1” bullshit that the OP here would have.

If it was just a simple “Hey man, you shouldn’t say that, why’d you say that? Spoiler box that shit.” I’d have said “OK, my bad!” But it wasn’t that. And I don’t feel obligated to appease somebody as neurotic and fucking precious as billfish.

[erysichthon]

@Rigamarole

If it was just a simple “Hey man, you shouldn’t say that, why’d you say that? Spoiler box that shit.” I’d have said “OK, my bad!” But it wasn’t that. And I don’t feel obligated to appease somebody as neurotic and fucking precious as billfish.

Okay, then. I’ll add “I would have apologized if you guys hadn’t been so mean to me!” to my list of your bullshit excuses above.

[VinylTurnip]

@Typo_Negative

Word to the wise. Apologize, then lay low for awhile. Don’t think about it. Just do it.

Forget it, he’s dickrolling.