Victorinox bought Wenger in 2005. I assume they’re still making the knives using the same equipment and people Wenger always has? If Wenger aren’t as well-built as Victorinox, will Victorinox make them better? Are Victorinox better-built? I’ve always had Brand V, so I don’t know. Can you say how you came about your impression?
Just a couple.
Rounded edges on the screwdriver blades, straight and phillips. If you look at the tips, the tip that goes into the screw slot was slightly rounded where the flat part becomes the edge. Same for the phillips, the edges that grip the screw slot were slightly rounded. These edges should be sharp to grip the screw.
The saw is a joke, imo.
All the tools are too small. And crowded.
I have a really good dedicated corkscrew at home, where I drink wine. A good friend once insisted on pulling out his SAK to open a bottle, when I had a functional tool right there that would do the job much more quickly and easily. I let him go ahead. The psychic pressure to show off must have weighed heavily on the guy, because he had a hard time with the task.
And, people (men) get emotionally attached to the things. They tend to fib about how good their SAK works.
The toothpick is pretty cool. The tweezers aren’t.
Peace,
mangeorge
I guess you’d call it anecdotal evidence. My first SAK was a Wenger, and it fell apart on me. The red sides fell off, then the blade broke, and it got rust spots. I’ve had much better results with my two Victorinox knives (had the first one confiscated at a courthouse, and forgot to get it back).
So my experience isn’t that broad, and it’s not fair for me to judge the whole company by that one knife. (It’d be like judging Ford by the POS Tempo I had.)
I haven’t had any issues with the screwdrivers. I usually use a Champion or a Swiss Champ. (BTW, what’s the difference between my Champion and the Champion Plus?) On those occasions when I’ve needed a screwdriver they’ve handles the jobs. The tiny screwdriver that screws into the corkscrew has worked fine for me.
I’ve found the wood saw to be quite functional. I don’t use it all the time, but it’s come in handy on several occasions. It cuts well. I haven’t used the metal saw much.
Yes, the tools are small; and they have to be crowded to fit in the package. Some of them are difficult to extend, but they can be reached by opening an adjacent blade. But are they too small? Well, they’ve handled the jobs I’ve used them for. But that’s generally because they are the right size for the job at hand. Obviously they’d be useless if I needed a different tool. I’ve yet to see a SAK with a 16 oz. hammer.
The toothpick gets a surprising amount of use. One of the most useful items in the tool kit. The tweezers also get some use. They’re not as good as ones you might pick up in the cosmetics department, but they do have one huge advantage: They’re there. They’re much better than the tweezers that are sitting in the bathroom cupboard! Good enough to remove the odd sliver.
And the scissors are great. I can’t think of all the times I’ve used them for removing tags, shaping a bit of paper, or trimming my fingernails. The can opener is a lot easier to use than the P-38 that lives on my keychain. The pliers on the Swiss Champ have come in handy. I haven’t had a need for the hook disgorger or scaler, but I like the inch/cm rulers on it. I haven’t used the pen yet (on the Swiss Champ), but I like knowing it’s there when I carry that knife.
I’m not quite sure what the hook is on the bottom of the Swiss Champ. I’ve seen it called a ‘carrying hook’, and ISTR a suggestion that it can be used with plastic shopping bags. I haven’t tried it. I can see that it might come in handy for tightening cords or something.
I didn’t mention that I haven’t owned a SAK for at least 40 years. I’ve received a few at work as safety awards, but I always gave them away.
My Leatherman is at work, and hasn’t been out of the drawer in months. When I do need tools, I take my tool bag with me. And in an emergency my little Swiss+Tech does the job.
I don’t carry any pocket knife IRL.
Wait a minute, I have a Buck flashlight/knife on my keychain. Forgot about that.
It’s quite useful for carrying packages wrapped in string. Not that I do that very often, but I guess there aren’t that many other tools that extend from the middle of the handle and they didn’t want to waste a slot.
mangeorge: I have a Gerber tool similar to a Leatherman. The pliers get the most use. (And I like the snick! as I deploy them!) But generally it’s too big to carry around. My Swiss Champ and Champion have key rings on them so I can hook one onto the internal hook at the top of my rucksack. I have a Victorinox leather sheath that I can wear on my belt, and I find it more comfortable and less ‘weapony’ than the Gerber sheath. Until I discovered people were getting into my Jeep when I forgot to lock it, I kept a Champion in the glove box. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve needed a tool that wasn’t on the Gerber and had the Champion right there ready for use.
The trouble is that I tend not to carry more than two knives at a time. There’s the Victorinox Classc on my car key ring, and then there’s the other. It’s not always the Champion or Swiss Champ. Could be the Soldier, or it could be the Case 31048 SS. (Seems I don’t carry the Spartans anymore.) The problem is that occasionally I’ll need a tool on the big SAK and I’m carrying another knife instead.
Brown paper packages tied up with string? That’s one of my favourite things!
I might start carrying more now that I’ve discovered baggy pants with lots of pockets. Up until a few years ago I wore, almost exclusively, snug Levis. Not much room for anything except me. Still, away from work I rarely have a need of any kind of tool. I don’t know, though. Maybe that Victorinox Classic? It has the toothpick. I’m an avid gadget gatherer,
The Classic is very small, so it’s convenient for a key ring. Years ago I carried a Spartan on a key ring, and it really was too big. The Classic’s small knife blade has come in handy uncounted times for opening boxes. The scissors, toothpick and tweezers also get their fair share of use. The screwdriver on this model is not all that great. It’s either too big or too small when I need one. I don’t file my nails, so that tool is superfluous.
I have one of the 1GB USB flashdrive versions. I bought it nearly 2 years ago. It was the the largest SwissMemory device at that time.
But there was more than just the 1GB flashdrive that enticed me to plunk down the excessive price (it was about $120 at the time). It also had a white LED flashlight (not the red LED of the lesser capacities of the SwissMemory knives).
It also had a ballpoint pen, plus the usual (almost expected) knife and scissors.
This SAK has been a very handy tool! So often I do need a light and/or the scissors along with the always useful USB flashdrive.
This is really becoming a(n) MPSIMS thread.
Anyway, yesterday I broke out the Swedish army stove. I used the screwdriver on my Soldier SAK to open the cap on the methylated spirits. Today I was doing some small modifications to a pair of reproduction Mk.IX goggles to more closely match my originals, which involved cutting the clips that hold the strap. The cutting wheel on my Dremel broke and flew away, and I used the Soldier’s screwdriver once again to change it. The SAK was at hand, and the toolbox wasn’t.
Go to Al Jaffee’s MAD Inventions if you want to see the ultimate Swiss Army Knife–and the ultimate American Army Knife.
Link?
Pulpware.
Yeah, it’s Pulpware, all right. Chapter 6, pp. 73ff., copyright 1978 by Jaffee and MAD.
Okay, I got all worked up and decided to do a little hands-on comparison. I compared the Leatherman pocket (Juice) tools to the similar Victorinox SAKs.
First, none of the LMs had toothpicks. For me, possibly the most useful of all tools.
But, for fit and finish, and material and workmanship, the Leatherman was the hands-down winner. Everything was smoother and tighter and easier to open. Even the famous, much desired corkscrew seemed better quality, though I couldn’t give it a real world test. The Juice line is prettier than the SAK too.
So one would expect the Leatherman to be more expensive too, right? Well, it is. To a fault. Feature for feature I’d guess it was nearly twice the cost of the Victorinox.
So what did I decide on? Probably one of the full-size Charge series. About a hundred bucks. I’ll decide after further handling. These also have a quick-release lanyard ring too, which is actually pretty cool.
Got plastic, time to go!
I own three SAKs and every Juice every produced, along with a few other Leatherman tools. They are different, but both useful. The SAK gets more use around the house, while the Leathermans get the most use at school and in the field. I’d feel naked without either.
I don’t think so, but I don’t know for sure. I will try to find out for you.
To each his own. I prefer bright copper kettles myself.