Take Down The Israeli Flag

[Spoke]

As noted, while the South loved to revile the “carpetbaggers,” creating a mythology in which those dreadful Northerners came to ravage a distraught South, the truth is that those dreadful people actually brought money into a destitute and war-ravaged economy.

OK, well, we have enough money now. Y’all don’t have to keep moving down here!

(Kidding, kidding.)

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“Every time you think, you weaken the nation!” --M. Howard (addressing his brother, C. Howard).

[tomndebb]

No, spoke-, I agree with you.

When I was getting out of tradeschool in the middle of the 1980 depression in Detroit, the “career counsellor” told me that I would have to relocate to find work. (That made sense.) He then asked what my salary requirements were for when they broadcast all the graduates’ resumes. I gave him my base salary and added “Or 25% more to move South of the Ohio river.”

He sputtered, “You can’t do that!” (as he figured his placement fee was drifting out of reach).
I responded, “Yes I can. I love winter and I cannot function for long at temperatures above 80° and I will need more money to survive in an environnment where I will have to buy a car with A/C.”
I love visiting the South, but heat, fire ants, and similar enducements are simply not enough to urge me to live down there.

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Tom~

[suiyobi]

tom-
thanks for the clarification; i was ignorant on the particulars.
i still have the same opinion on the parallel between jim crow and nazism as postwar backlashes/scapegoating in times of economic stress among the vanquished, though.

(hey, maybe i’ll back down on this one, too!)

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the hog squeal of the universe is coming from my modem!

[Doobieous]

I am a proud SOUTHERNER. Always have been always will be. In these PC times this alone appears to make me evil.

Oh, lord, the “woe is me” attitude. No, it’s the loud trumpet blowing that a lot (not all) Southerners do when they talk about the south that causes everyone else to make fun of them. Pride for where you come from in itself is not a bad thing (i’m proud to be a Californian). BUT, No one likes it when people have excessive pride in things like place of origin .

Also, every place in the US has its fair share of steroetypes from people in other states. I come from California, and I couldn’t count how many times have I heard people say “Wow, you sure aren’t like how I thought Californians would be” (Flaky, or wierd, or a “surfer dude”), or the stories about how much some Oregonians or Washingtonians despise Californians (Though, they may be overblown a bit) .

Can you back that up? Last time I checked with friends in the south, they had a pretty damned good life there.

In order for the north to justify what it did and continues to do to the South it must continue to portray us as evil, ignorant heathens. No other culture or ethnic group in the world is so consistently portrayed in a negative light as we are.

My, those are some big claims there. Hmm, when was the last time my cousins in the Philippines made fun of southerners, or even thought about them? Not one time.

Oh and should I be bitter over the US’s invasion of the Philippines during the Spanish American war? (hint: get over the past)

One who takes pride in their Southern culture or heritage must be a racist bigot. They must be traitors. They must want to destroy the American way of life.
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Excuse me? Read back up to number 1. I can’t think of the last time (or the first time) I thought of southerners as traitors. I can remember thinking that of all the areas in the US they have some of the worst cases of excess pride (New Yorkers come in second ;)), but, i’ve never ever thought of them as wanting to “destroy the American way of life”.