Teachers 'executed' during mock active shooter training

I know I still find myself (in specific circumstances) defending police in cases where I shouldn’t be, but this is so far beyond indefensible that it’s going to destroy even more of the little bit of trust a lot of people still have in them. This, IMO, makes a lot of police shootings look like they were done for sport rather than self defense or necessity.

This is from an incident that took place about a year ago where local police were doing active shooter training and didn’t tell the teachers they were going to be using airsoft guns instead of, ya know, fake guns, or even no guns since they’re really not necessary in this situation.

Some notable quotes:
“The training included: high-velocity plastic pellets fired at point-blank range, breaking skin, leaving scars; screaming, expletives, and verbal abuse, according to the suit.”

“Another described hiding under a table to avoid any more pellets, but an officer found her and shot her three more times.”

““This is what happens when you just cower and do nothing,” one of the officers said, as he walked back and forth along the line of kneeling teachers, shooting them at point-blank “until his gun ran out of bullets,””

"Following one round of mock executions, one teacher described glaring back at the officers and “was shocked to find that they were grinning back at her.”

" Teachers were taken in groups and, on their knees, repeatedly “executed” by officers using Airsoft pellet guns Others waiting outside for their turn said they [could hear teachers scream]."

It was the quote about the cop finding a teacher hiding and then shooting her three times that really got to me. She was clearly scared and you’re there to protect (and train in this case) not actively inflict paid because you think it’s funny. Along those same lines, what the fuck is the point of bringing teachers in and ‘executing’ them one by one?

I wonder what would have happened if one of those teachers grabbed their pepper spray and defended themselves? That’s the point of ALICE training, right? Once you’re fucked, you fight back, not sit there and wait to be shot. I’m assuming that if a teacher attempted to defend themselves with physical or chemical measures, they’d promptly be arrested for assaulting an officer.

If all that’s not enough, police are trying to rebuild their trust with the community, right? Demonstrating to the youth educators of your own community that the police shouldn’t be trusted isn’t going to help anything at all.

That’s some fucked up shit.

Or threw something heavy at one of the “shooters” or tried to rush them. What behavior is expected and allowed of those going through this training?

Yeah, this is too far gone.

And I agree, if cops are allowed to go all-out in ‘shooting’ teachers, it’s only fair game for the teachers to throw chairs and hit them with everything they got too. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Here is an article from the Indianapolis Star about this incident from about two months after it occurred. Apparently using actual ammunition (even if it’s soft pellets) is not standard in such training.

As a police instructor I must agree. That was wrong in so many ways. I hope the Chief of the Department was fired along with everyone in the chain of command who approved the fiasco. If it was some low-level person that made the decision on his own, the Chief still needs to held accountable for permitting a culture that would even consider such “training”.

Sounds like the police might have bought themselves some nice lawsuit for lifelong PTSD and deprivation of earnings.

They did. I forgot to mention in my OP that the reason this appears to be news today is because some of the teachers are suing the police department.

This happened a year and a half ago. Why it take so long?

Nuke plants will randomly have ‘nuclear ninjas’ test the security of plants … one guy was extremely lucky my exhusband managed to tell me not to swing - I was standing behind a cabinet with a 4 foot torque wrench in my hand winding up at the disturbance. I heard yelling that didn’t sound like nuke accident type yelling - the whole ‘get down, hands on your head’ sort of gave it away, nuke accident yelling is more like ‘oh shit, get out now’ Threatening someone with armed response guard training is not a good idea …

My first and my always husbands have always held the policy they would rather bail me out of jail than identify me in the morgue and I should go down fighting back if I am going to die, take an honor guard with me.

Judged by 12, not carried by 6.

No idea, it’s the first I heard of it. I assume it’s just how long the process took. I’d WAG that they tried to deal with the directly and escalated it from there, lawyers, teacher’s unions, police unions, school districts/school boards/school superintendents etc. All that bureaucracy probably took that much time to wade through before someone on the teacher’s side decided to let a judge figure it out.

I think there is a window, of perhaps two years, after which you can’t file a civil suit so sometimes the announcement that a suit has been filed comes almost at the second anniversary of an event.

That makes sense. The time running out puts people in a now or never situation. I’m sure the teachers tried settling this without involving the courts and didn’t get anywhere. They could still settle it out of court, but they have to file the suit now or they can just about guarantee nothing will ever come of it.
I hope the teacher’s union is backing them up on this.

Police are trained to feel fear. Everyone is out to get them and they must be on guard at all times. This grows from real concerns – we’ve all heard of police killed at traffic stops and ambushed by criminals – but it is way overstressed and applied to all sorts of inappropriate situations.

Especially now post-George-Floyd, many police feel like the public doesn’t get that they feel under siege and afraid, but that’s been true to some degree in the past as well, when this incident occurred.

I assume a certain amount of “shoe’s on the other foot,” “how do you like them apples” satisfaction motivated the officers in the exercise to terrorize the teachers.

This is a joke, right. An “Onion” kind of article?