Ted Nugent can Kiss My Ass

The BBQ Pit
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I didn’t say I didn’t share the feeling of not having everything bilingual, but he plumb left all that out in his “Get the FUCK out of America.” This country is founded on people that wanted a better life than they could get elsewhere. Not all of them spoke English. Ted Nugent proves what an ignorant person he is by ignoring that fact.

For the record my grandmother and her brothers and sisters were not allowed to speak German by their parents. The came to America to raise their children as Americans. They settled in German communities as many immigrants did with their own people of like backgrounds. They just never learned to speak English clearly.

Remind me sometime to explain how the genes and chromosomes of the parents are passed down to the offspring of each new generation.

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I gave several examples of Americans having to speak Spanish, as in emergency personnel and social services workers.

That’s for the Brits who go to France to bring back smuggled cigarrettes and avoid VAT. :smiley:

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occ, my apologies for trying to inject an actual fact into the discussion. I thought those were the kinds of things we did at the SD, even in the Pit. I’ll just go away and let y’all go back to finding reasons to dislike others. USA! USA!

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I personally think Ted Nugent is an idiot, and I think it’s extremely rude to invite anyone to “get the fuck out of the country” for any reason. That above quote is just priceless, and if I were SoHoMom I would drop him a letter or call his crappy radio show (is that still on the air at all?) and tell him exactly that.

Zette

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Goddamn, now THAT’S funny.

Like old scratch said, it’s scary to think we have two threads devoted to The Nuge. I commented on the other one, I will not waste breath on him here.

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Good advice Cranky.

This thread is not about immigrants and the language they speak, it’s about whether Ted Nugent is an asshole.

He is. 'Nuff said.

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I live in Michigan and get more of him here than y’all probably do.

His hunting lodge (or whatever he wants to call it) is up near where my grandmother lives.

Don’t care for him much but what can ya do.

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Du jour?

Thank GaWd for English as the majority language here Phil…you’d never make it if it was French :smiley:

-Sam

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GaWd, I don’t know how Phil’s French is, but his Latin is okay. De jure is a legal phrase meaning, roughly, “as a matter of law.” It’s the opposite of de facto, as a matter of fact (as a matter of fact). I assume Phil included de jure in his statement because an argument could be made that America does have a de facto official language – English.

So while Ted Nugent may be the buffoon du jour and a de facto buffoon, he is not a de jure buffoon.

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No, but he might do okay in Latin.

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It’s misunderstandings like this that have convinced me we need to make English the official language. DAMN LATIN SPEAKERS. If you’re going to confuse the rest of us at least do it with a language that’s not dead. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Semper ubi sub ubi, scratchy-poo:)

And Latin ain’t dead: the Pope uses it for his encyclicals. So there :stuck_out_tongue:

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Remind me sometime to explain how the genes and chromosomes of the parents are passed down to the offspring of each new generation.

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Mom I am well aware of chromosomes and genes, if you had read my post you would have seen that “you” would have probably been born. The post did not address your immediate relatives other than your grandmother.

Sheesh, sometimes you have to explain everything!

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I think I can name a person. I don’t know their name, but my dad, a postal worker, encountered him one day.

My dad was always being solicited at work to take Spanish classes, “To accomodate our Spanish-speaking customers.” My dad wanted to go home to his family, no thanks. Anyway, one day he was out picking up mail, and this man comes over to him. He starts asking a question in Spanish. My dad says he doesn’t understand - doesn’t speak Spanish. They guy repeats the question several times, in Spanish. My dad still indicates that he can’t understand. Then the guy says (in perfectly understandable English) “You are guilty of discrimation because you don’t speak Spanish.” My dad was flabbergasted.

I remember chatting on the bus with a Spanish-speaking gentleman, who said in broken English “You learn Spanish, no?” He was really nice about it, but hey.

It is also disingenious to say that there are NO people who come to this country and don’t get bent out of shape because they encounter people (like my dad) who don’t speak their language. L.A. County seems to have it’s share. I remember seeing a story on TV about some woman who was complaining about how she did not get the emergency medical attention she needed, because she did not speak English. She had been in the USA for over 10 years, never bothered to learn even basic English, yet she’s complaining. Now, it’s tragic and sad that she did not get the medical help she needed, but the distinct implication was that she felt it was the obligation of the medical people to learn her language, not the other way around.

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If a person emigrates to another country it would only be in their best interest to learn the common language of that country. English is a difficult language and I work with a number of highly educated people who struggle with it on a daily basis. They often ask me how to spell one word or another or to help them with syntax. I appreciate their effort.

My grandfather was born in Sweden and was my only grandparent that did not speak English as a first language, he worked hard every day of his life, contributed to the community in which he lived, and learned english. Our country was founded by a great number of people who did not speak English but were willing to work their asses off. People who espouse ideas like Mr. Nugent’s piss me off.
Those are the kinds of people we don’t need.

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We’re not talking about fine folks like your grandfather, who came here to become citizens, who contributed to America and learned English. We’re talking about the flood of Central American immigrants who have refused to learn English and expect us to learn Spanish.

The American colonies were founded by England, and the first colonists spoke English. There were also colonies founded by Spain (Florida and the Southwestern states) and Louisiana was founded by the French, of course, but the dominant language of our nation has always been English.

Well, he’s no charmer, but at least he loves the United States.

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Archer, all I can figure out is that you are trying to make some sort of religious or spriritual reference. So, I’ll just say that we apparently don’t share the same beliefs there.

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If I pay good money to see a concert, that is what I want to see. Like his opinion on anything matters. Shut the fuck up, Ted, and play stranglehold asshole.

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Am I the only one who think that this should be the new name of Nuge’s tour?

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Okay, I’ll give that the United States has no official language, but the commonly accepted language is English.

Hea Oldscratch, yeah you, If you ever meet someone who does not speak English in this country, then unless they just got off the boat, their ignorance tells me that they don’t want to learn English. Don’t give me any shit that this doesn’t happen. I work at a fire department in a small city in New Mexico, I run into patients all the time that don’t speak English, and they get angry when I cannot speak Spanish. If you are going to come to The US, why not learn the commonly accepted language.

Also, I was just in Belgium a month ago. I am aware that there is a very small section on the Eastern edge of the country that speak German. Hell, I speak German. Also, don’t dream to try and tell me that the French speaking population and the Dutch speaking population coexist w/o any discontent. Many of the Dutch speaking people I met looked down on their French speaking counterparts, the French the same of the Dutch.

Third, the message is a valid one. Again, it was not the most tactful way to give the message, but if you move to the US I expect some effort to learn English. If I were to move to Belgium I would make every effort to learn Dutch, French, and to improve my German. The vast majority of the population in Belgium do speak English, but that makes no difference. I should learn the other languages just to fit in. On our way to Belgium we stayed in Frankfurt. Again, sense I can speak some basic German, I made every effort to speak in German to anyone outside of my group. I could tell that the effort was appreciated.

Oh, and its late; I’m tired, so indulge me please. What the hell is…

“It’s about as valid as suggesting we start pogroms against
the Hmong”

Pogroms? Hmong? I’m not familiar with those words. See, even I am still learning English.

You may wonder why I chose to learn German instead of Spanish, living in New Mexico. My family also migrated to the US 4 generations ago. My mother’s family spoke German, my father’s Finnish. My grandmother spoke both fluent Finnish and English. I chose to learn German as part of my family’s culture. No one should expect for their language to die. They can contact others that speak their same language, but it’s plain irresponsible to not make an attempt to learn English.