so, how would i go about hooking up? I am learning by doing lots of mining to buy books, and running quests. It woulld be a lot funner if I had someone to chat with and ask questions instead of the newb channel. That keeps getting spammed by goldsellers=(
First of all, get to the Stegette system (I hope I spelled that right). Also, send an in-game mail to me, character name “Jock Rockstrong”. I’ll get you talking to the right people to get in.
There is also the Teeming Millions channel (join by clicking the Channels & Mailing Lists button on the left). I’ve seen as many as five in there, and I always have mine open, but there isn’t usually much talk that I’ve seen. Some activity there would be welcome.
is there any racial enmity i have to consider? Like in WOW, where there is horde and alliance? I seem to vaguely remember reading something about stations and areas that races were not welcome in? And I will be joinging the teeming millions channel=) though I did make a friend in game that I have been chatting with a lot. She has been very helpful with tips and suggestions=)
You start out with 0 standing with everyone. The canon story is that Gallente and Caldari split as the result of a civil war or something like that, and Minmatar were the slaves of Amarr but had a successful rebellion. Gallente and Minmatar are allies, as are Caldari and Amarr. However, a n00b Matari pilot flying around in Amarr space will be fine. Once you start doing missions, you will start to gain standing with the corp the mission was issued from, allied corps, and the empire the corp belongs to (if any). Enemies you fight during the mission belong to some corp or another, or sometimes to another empire. When you kill enemies, you lose standing with their corps and allies. If your standing drops low enough with a corp, that corp’s stations will fire on you if you get too close and you will be refused docking permission. It takes a lot of work to get your standing that low though. I understand that getting involved with Faction Warfare will affect your standing pretty quickly.
Player corps also have standing. NPC corp standing towards player corps is an average of its standing towards the individual corp members. Player corps set their standing towards other player corps and individual players manually, however.
The upshot of all this is that you can pick your own path pretty freely. You could be a Caldari pilot who hates the ruling military junta, and goes off to fight for human rights with the Gallenteans. Or you could go make friends with one of the “rat” corps, Serpentis for example, and be a drug runner. Or you can ignore NPC corp politics altogether and go straight to one of the big player alliances out in 0.0 space.
Hello,
I recently started Eve and seem to like it. It is different.
After a couple test starts, I went with an Amarr (?) military dude. I would like the possibility of PvP in the future and want to be non-gimped…Are the Amarr ships more gimpy? Should I start over, and if so as what?
Thanks.
From what I have seen so far (only been playing 2 weeks), you can learn to use any ship in the game. Starting as Amarr, you will be about 1-week’s worth of playtime up their ship tech tree. This doesn’t prevent you from training in Caldari ships, for example, but just keep in mind it’ll take a bit longer.
So no, I wouldn’t start over. Have you joined the Teeming Millions chat channel?
As others have said, there’s nothing preventing you from cross training into other races. What defines a combat vs non combat character is more the starting attributes than the race choice. Combat tends to drive you towards perc/will skills, non combat towards int/mem (this is a bit of a simplification, but it’s broadly true).
As for the Amarr ships, in my opinion they have some of the finest fleet combat ships available once you get to battleship size and up. If you envisage taking part in the larger territorial wars, amarr is a fine choice of ship specialisation, especially for an aspiring capital pilot (finally started a capital alt myself, went amarr).
For roving gang type PvP cruiser hulls tend to be preferred and in that size bracket the minmatar are king (they have the best HACs, good recons, the best dictors and heavy dictors).
A minor but worthwhile point is that Amarr are seriously underrepresented in factional warfare, if you want to play a serious underdog I’d say you’d have a hell of a time with amarr FW.
Normally that would appeal to me. However, I have spent most of my game time playing Allied in WWIIonline…and am tired of being the underdog.
However, I’ll give this Amarr a try.
The good news is, you can join any faction for Factional Warfare, it doesn’t matter what race you are. The only thing that would be any kind of problem is the cost of replacing ships if you only fly the Amarr models and you are in Gallente space.
Yay, I am now in a corp, and finding my way around. I opted not to join the teaming millions channel because paying attention to chat can be distracting. As tempting as joining the fleet and trying out PVP, I am holding off on pvp and fighting for a bit. I am hoping to hook mrAru on it this weekend when he gets up here for the weekend … now I am assiduously working on making money to get an upgraded mining barge to make even more money so i can have a fighting ship and a mining ship=)
On a sort of tangent, I find it vaguely unsettling that you can buy 300 million IDK for a 2 month gaming card … I have spent enough time in EQ and WOW where players buying gold kills the market for people who dont buy gold/platinum…
Unlike most games, an influx of money is not going to automatically make you more leet. Even assuming your character has the skill to fly a 300 million ship (say, a navy issue battleship with T2 fittings), you still have to know what to do with it or you will just be a large, expensive target.
Also, WoW-style farming is still forbidden. That’s where someone makes ISK or items in game and sells it for cash in a private transaction. But when you sell a timecard for ISK through the official channels, CCP gets the cash and can spend it on improving the game.
I wouldn’t worry too much about this. The markets in high sec are pretty efficient, the cost to the end consumer of most common produce is not much over the cost of production. There’s been a few recent changes that may make prices go a little funny for a while (shuttles no longer being NPC available, removing the ceiling on trit prices) but the sheer number of people producing goods in empire keeps the whole thing fairly honest for common goods. People do occasionally play silly buggers with particular items by relisting, but this can generally be avoided with a few jumps.
What timecarding has vastly increased the price of is second hand characters (EvE allows character trading between accounts for isk). I was shopping for an amarr cap ship pilot and prices seem to range around 8-12 billion, which is currently far more than I can afford. I’ve basically decided to roll my own.
Heh, yeah. For those of you following along at home:
[spoiler]A battleship has a mass on the order of 100 times greater than that of a frigate. Therefore an afterburner meant for a frigate will have negligible effect on a battleship’s velocity, but will still take up a slot, CPU cycles, and powergrid that could all be used for something else.
As if that wasn’t stupid enough, the pilot had 5 empty high slots (where are the weapons?), 1 empty mid slot (could be used for shields or various utility stuff), and 2 empty low slots (should be used for armor tanking on that ship). He was carrying missiles but no launcher, and his drone bay was empty (it’s possible the drones were deployed). And finally, he had 2 remote armor repair mods installed - nothing wrong with that in itself, but there are other ships that do it better, and meanwhile he’s flying around with only 1 gun.
My guess is that this guy was only just barely able to fly the ship, but didn’t have any of the other skills he should have to fit it out properly. Moral of the story: don’t think you’re hot shit and can take on freaking GoonSwarm just because you can afford a Navy Megathron hull.[/spoiler]
Heh. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to us not as familiar with the game, sturmhauke.
I browsed EVE’s website once, thinking about playing. But I hate PvP. I think it brings the worst out of people.
But sometimes I want a break from the sword & sorcery settings in most MMORG’s.
Well, yes, but it’s also possible he had just purchased it and hadn’t completed the fitting yet, and was on his way to the station he’d purchased the rack of T2 Neutron blasters and MWD. In the mean time he figured he’d toss on whatever crap was lying around in his hangar.
That said, one of my corpmates was helping some guy out with a lvl 4 mission the other day who had megabeam lasers (and a shield tank) fit on a Megathron. I mean, obviously you should put megabeams on a Megathron, right? I’m not entirely convinced the guy wasn’t trying to pull a Lofty, but then again those gang/war dec mechanics got changed so the Lofty trick doesn’t work. I dunno. Some people are idiots.
I tell you, I started with EVE because of some nasty guild politics going on right now in WOW … and I am actually enjoying it enough to pay for a subscription.
I havent been ganked yet, just killed twice by rats [nps pirates] in a quest until I bought a better ship, slapped some gatling guns on it and thrashed the hell out of the rats and looted them. I got hooked up in a corp that has a few of our teeming millions in it [thanks Jock!!!] and have started with mining [we did a group mining session that was a blast] and just bought the blueprint to make my own shuttle so I can go and pick up my mining frigate [ill run the shuttle back to amarr space and sell it off when I get into my baby frigate to transport it back to my new system]
I am going to start doing some more kill and loot quests, and find someone to spar with to get better at weapon use.
I just find it odd not having a body, just a pod. Very Mcaffrey Ship who sings!
It’s nice to see folks who are inspired and enthusiastic about their game. It’s the the most effective advertising tactic to me.