Tell me about Iowa

It’s odd, I’m an Eastern Canadian who’s been living in Western Iowa for a few years now, and my experience is just the opposite. Maybe it’s this part of the state, but I’ve been shocked at the lack of friendliness, expecting otherwise from the Midwest. Just last week three three fine gentlemen at the Post Office walked right past me blancing two boxes and a purse with both hands and my chin, without even a nod, let alone an offer of help. A fourth, standing at the end of the line inside the building, looked right at me and didn’t open the door . The people are nice enough, but rather aloof.

My spouse, born and raised elsewhere in the Midwest, said I’ve just got the wrong idea about Midwestern friendliness. Around here people are friendly in the “mind your own business and don’t make trouble for your neighbours” fashion, not in the carrying groceries for little old ladies fashion.

Iowa does have the coolest thunderstorms ever, though. Until I came here, I didn’t realise that you could see lightening without hearing thunder. That makes up for a lot of indifference at the Post Office.

I’m not a native Iowan. I’ve only been here since I was 16. I’m still a new comer in the little town where I’ve lived and worked for 35 years. I grew up in rural central Ohio and I’ve lived and worked in suburban Washington, Northern Virginia, Germany, and rural southern Missouri, but I love this place and there is no place I’d rather live than here. Why? I think it’s the relentless commonsense of these stiff necked and private people. Meredith Wilson had it right when he said than we can be as cold as a falling thermometer in December if you ask about our weather in July, but we’ll give you our shirt and a back to go with it if your horse should happen to die. There are pockets of hostile insularity – far Northwestern Iowa with it’s huge row crop farms, Dutch Reform Church and a bat-shit crazy congressman – is an obvious example.

Bryson tends to be a smarmy and hyper-critical SOB, what with his phony almost Oxford accent and his supercilious attitude and his books claiming to be some sort of linguist and all round Renaissance man, but he is representative of out most important export, well educated, self-reliant and self-confidant people. Iowa is, if you would, the Scotland of North America, sending out our sons and daughters to run the rest of the continent.

If you are looking for sea shores and mountains, go someplace else. We don’t have that. If you are looking for a place that sends 10,000 people out to peddle across the 300 plus mile width of the state on bicycles in the heat and thunderstorms of a Midwestern summer in a week long rolling party, we’re your place. If you think that having a quality public education system is just about the most important thing that a community can do, we’re your place. If you love the rolling prairie and the deep valleys of rivers you never heard of this is the place. If you think a temperature of 20 degrees below zero with a 40 mph wind out of the northwest is invigorating you will fit in just fine.

We know we are not in the center of the universe. But we also know that we have a responsibility to each other, whether the other is a guy you went to first grade with and has three generations in the local cemetery, or just came in from Mexico or Bosnia or Southeast Asia or Mississippi last month. In the end it’s the sense of small town community, even in our biggest cities (which aren’t all that big), that makes this place special and worth taking care of and worth being proud of.

If you give me enough notice I might be able to make it. It would give me an excuse to visit my sister. And her Hawkeye kids.

Me! :cool:

I was born in Iowa, but moved when I was about four.

Very nicely said Gelding

My husband (former Doper UncleBill) has an interview in Waterloo on Wednesday, so there may be a couple more in the state soon.

Getting away from Iowa and moving on…

Bryson says on P114 of the book that in 20 US States, most of them in the Deep South, it is illegal for heterosexuals to engage in oral or anal sex.

Is this true today as it was in 1989 when the book was first published.

There are a bunch of laws like that still on the books in various states. Needless to say, they are never enforced that I know of.

chowder - It’s also probably illegal to water your horse in the town fountain, but it probably isn’t often brought up. There are lots of old laws on the books that just aren’t purged because they’re obsolete.

I find it interesting that someone from an island nation would come to America for the seafood. Don’t you have chowder and crab cakes in the UK?

StG

I’ve worked with some people from Iowa, and traveled there a few times. A couple of my favorite self-deprecating jokes from people who’ve lived there:

IOWA is an acronym for “Idiots Out Walking Around”.

When the Iowa football team plays an away game in (pick a surrounding state) the collective IQs of both states goes up.
And another famous (dead) person from Iowa that I don’t think anyone has mentioned yet – guitarist Tommy Bolin.

Who needs the sea, when you’ve got the Mississippi and Missouri rivers (bordering the state), not to mention Lake McBride, where I spent my “honeymoon” years ago.

Having gone to college and later worked in Iowa for a few years, in my opinion it’s not a place to visit*. Can be nice to live there.

*The sun will shine
The rain will fall
and Iowa corn will grow
and grow
and grow and grow

Just throw that golden seed down
right down on Iowa ground
Before it ever gets there
that seed will grow in mid-air*

“The Iowa Indian Song” (as rendered by Bing Crosby)
*better food than in England, though. :slight_smile:

I also have a negative opinion of Bryson – he’s an undertalented phoney. I find his language essays to be poorly researched and full of easily falsifiable urban legends. He also abandons truth for lame jokes. His humorous anecdotes are neither humorous nor do they carry substantial verisimilitude.

I’m not sure he’s faking the accent though. It sounds like a thorough confusion of British and American, which would make sense considering his experience. He certainly doesn’t sound “almost Oxford” to me.

Iowa is just like Nebraska without all the glitter.

I don’t just visit the US for the seafood, I go because I like the place.

But no we don’t have chowder/crab cakes in the UK unless you count the canned shit which aint worth a mention

Jackmanni I’m getting just a bit pissed off with people calling British food.

Knock it off

You slam a place you’ve never been to, and get pissed off because someone disses British food?

I’m going by what dopers have said in this thread as well as the book

Also I said “seems” not “is”

Sheesh!

Well. I went to college in Iowa (Iowa City–the hip, cool uni in Iowa. Seriously–in the 60s it was a mecca for hippies and other “creative” types). I have also traveled in UK.

I like your food, for the most part. I grew up on Yorkshire pudding with roast beef and gravy, with tea. Nope, no British parents, just foods we liked.

I have a fondness for Iowa (and Bill Bryson). It is a pretty state. It really doesn’t have the grandeur of other states; but the countryside is pleasant and variable. It really is rolling hills all the way through the center of the state. For true flatness, you need Nebraska. Even Kansas has more variety in elevations, IMO. I’ve never been to northwestern Iowa. I’ve never been to Lake Okoboji, but I’d like to someday.

I enjoyed living in Iowa City, where I was never asked for more ID when I wanted to write a check, where local cafes and corner grocery stores seemed to do just fine, despite the big chains and national food stores. This was in the 1980s, so maybe times have changed. IC was great in that it had the uni so we got the foreign films, and the more “exotic” foods like sun dried tomatoes and even sushi.

Life in the small towns is quite a different story. I had a roommate from some hamlet (dad a farm hand). The depths of her ignorance were a bit scary. She didn’t know what argyle socks were (at the height of Preppy fashion); she thought stamps would cost more in a city–I doubt she was representative of rural Iowa as a whole. Oddly enough, she went on to date a Palestinian guy who took her to the West Bank. They broke up and now she’s a pharm rep, in Iowa. I think she knows all about the socks and the stamps now!

I think that Iowa is probably a great place to be from. I could probably live there happily–but I like a quiet life. I just hate the hard rock/country music there. (of course, that’s all changed since the internet). People are kind. There are hidden spots of great beauty within the state; I like the bluffs that line the Mississippi and the huge swathes of oak forests nearby. There are also vestiges of the Amish, the Hutterites, the Mennonites etc living in eastern Iowa. These are groups who came to the US to found new religious colonies, often traveling from Switzerland, Germany and other parts of Europe to do so. Not to mention the history of the Mississippi River, and its natural beauty…

Chowder–forgive me, but I have to laugh re your surprise at the 1000 mile statement. A friend of my mother’s used to host foreign exchange students here. One year, they had a boy from Belgium. They lived near us (just south of Chicago), and they made plans to visit extended family in Texas. The boy fell asleep in the car as they left town. He woke up when they stopped for gas in Champaign. He asked if they were in Texas yet. The McLeod’s just gaped at him, then explained that they were only 2 hours from home, and had another 12 to go! Such is distance here in the USA.

eleanor The very first time I visited the US I hired a car.

Oh I knew the place was BIG but jebus I never realised just how big. I had it in my mind to spend 4 weeks driving around and see at least half of America…some 4 visits later I still have one hell of a way to go before I even see a fraction of it.

I reckon I’ve got a few more years before I shuffle off, I’ll visit the US again and again but I know I’ll pop off before I’ve seen all that I want to.

Do you know that you have states bigger than some European countries :eek:

Now when I invent the longevity pill I may just share it with you

I love New England, too. One nice thing about it–it’s so compact! I like being able to go to RI, CN, MA and even NH, all in one day. Have you been to Salem, MA? You should go. And Plimoth, of course (I learned it Plymouth, but the signs say Plimoth).

I have spent lots of time in Falmouth, MA, but never been to Falmouth, England. Maybe someday.

Chicago is not that far from Iowa. I live about 4 hours drive away from Iowa City–straight on I-80. Come on over and I’ll take you there!

I feel the same way you do, but about UK. There is so much to see and do there. I’ve been to Durham (on Bryson’s recommendation) and it’s gorgeous. I want to get to Wales, to Scotland, to Manchester, York, the Dales, the Lake District, Cornwall…

I’m going to need that longevity pill.

That’s a trick (you meant I-35, right?)