So I guess we get some new future characters. Skynet is into biowarfare, but the baby saves then somehow. There wasn’t a whole lot of new info in this episode. I guess the question is where did the girl go with the baby? What else did I miss?
I’m really not good at starting these threads, but if I don’t then megathread is coming back and I just can’t keep track of that anymore.
Yes, let’s keep a more conventional weekly episode thread. The other one was getting too unwieldy.
Tonight’s episode, while it had its moments, felt really disconnected from the rest of the season. Which overall has been really, really good. Derek’s phone calls by the old bus with Sarah were painfully one sided. Should’ve just cut those scenes.
I think this was the worst episode of the season, total filler. And not good filler, either, like last week’s show. This felt rushed and disjointed. I’m sure it’ll get back on track for next week’s Fall Finale.
The family sure bought into the whole “robots from the future” thing quickly, wot? One bad traffic accident and the gun-toting hottie and gun-toting MILF morph into your saviours?
Yeh, that was really lame.
It’s a pity they can’t keep the story together better. These last two episodes have been mostly pointless and not brought the story any further. They could be skipped without leaving any holes.
I think that new family’s girl was strange, she acted like all this was just normal for her. She didn’t even show any emotion when her mother died. Hum?
So does this mean that 6 months transpired between last week’s episode and next week’s?
They made the point repeatedly that kids can adapt to the extreme circumstances they suddenly found themselves in. The girl has been having to mentally deal with running from terminators and being important in the future for months. She’s in hardened survivalist mode.
•Jeez…starting with Galactica, I’ve noticed a trend. What is it with cybernetic apocalypses that turns people into whiny, self-absorbed, specist, technophobic idiots?
•I guess Skynet should have stuck with Anthrax. 
•As for the preview for next week—gee, thanks Ellison. At least with Skynet prime, we didn’t have to expect the Skynet Inquisition. drumroll, please…
°Seriously though, technically, according to Dante, the arts and industries are the “grandchildren” of God,* so presumably AIs count under that. I don’t know how this figures in to the whole “original sin” or who’s allowed to smite who with impunity rules.
*This is also why charging interest on loans gets you a deeper level of Hell than murderers, apparently.
That struck me as off too. They didn’t actually see anything that would indicate they guy was anything other than human. At least I couldn’t tell that they did.
the whole episode felt like it was written to be 2 episodes, but then cut down to one. a big story that was rushed. worst one of the season, i agree. it all evens out though. Heros was a good one this week while the rest of the season has been under par and terminator has been (mostly) above par this season except for this episode. TV show karma.
I think that they are trying to expand the show beyond just Sarah and John - last episode had only one very trivial scene with Sarah… this episode had no John in it, and very little Sarah.
I think in the long run, this is a good thing, but last nites episode was poorly set up… they tried to do a big reveal, and the episode itself was overly confusing - jumping back and forth.
If Cameron killed ‘roger’ when she came too (He was Human? oops) who did the mother call?
Was nice to see Cameron get owned by another Terminator, and in this vision of the future, the humans have lots of Metal working for them. (One is commanding a nuclear sub).
We also have the meeting of Jessie and Derek.
so, in all, the episode gave lots of bits, but seemed disjointed.
I liked this one a lot more than most people seem to have. I thought the tone was quite good, and it was nice to see normal-people-suddenly-having-their-lives-turned-upside-down. That was part of what was good about the original movie, and something we haven’t seen a huge amount of in the series.
I also really liked the spunky daughter.
I do agree that they seemed to accept that there was a cyborg after them much too quickly. We can fanwank and say that after the car crash they all got to see cameron fighting the 888 for a while in a clearly impossible-for-humans way, but they should have just shown that. Also, Cameron got thrown through the window by who from where precisely?
He made a noise when he was on the ground so he wasn’t instantly killed.
I thought it was a pretty weak episode. Especially the part where they apparently sat around the house less than a mile away from a terminator who probably knew they were there, had a mission to kill one of them, but didn’t just go charging in. Terminators wouldn’t attempt to eliminate other terminators before their target, unless they were in the immediate way.
Worst Terminator TV episode EVAR!
Seriously, I was wondering if they didn’t change writers or directors for this one.
The “2 episodes squished into one” angle almost makes sense, but why would they need to do that? I can’t think of any production reason to do that.
I’d give details of my complaints, but I think every single one has already been outlined.
I really enjoyed it. I thought the two Terminators hunting each other in the woods angle was well played from the human perspective. I too liked the spunky daughter (searching her name in Google brings up her Facebook page as the first hit).
Did anyone else notice the husband was the Lawman from the Firefly pilot?
I also liked that we learned more about the Future War. Skynet is fighting a global front and I like that other members of humanity have reprogrammed T-888s.
What I am having trouble coming to terms with is whether or not there is supposed to be suspense in whether the baby is ever born. Becasue we see her grown up later. I realize the Terminators are out to kill the mom, but what happens in their world if they do? I mean does that girl just vanish? So maybe there are differnt “worlds” where things happen differntly instead. Then the Terminators sent back from their time cannot REALLY change their world?
I know, I should just sit back and enjoy.
We learned that a few weeks ago when Jessie and Derek realized they were from different futures.
Yeah, I know, I just wonder then why SkyNet is so determined to change some other future.
I apologize for being a wet blanket on some of these threads. I still watch, because it is entertaining, I just need to stop being too analytical.
Perhaps it’s gambling that it might change it’s CURRENT “future”?
Perhaps Skynet’s goals can be logically extended to controlling the world WITHIN the alternate futures?
Remember that Skynet’s got a rather weird goal, which isn’t exactly selfish…
I think this is part of the whole human versus machine thing. Humanity can think about the questions of multiple timelines and fate and free will while machines think if they plop a Terminator back in 1984 and kill a woman named Sarah Connor it will change the present.
in the original timeline Skynet had already lost the war, and sending Arnie back was a last resort.
i think they simply don’t know how time travel works exactly.
"This wouldn’t work in a situation like this… or a bear. "