I don’t see a thread for this yet, so I thought I would go ahead and post one. I haven’t seen it yet, won’t have a chance till tomorrow. I’ll read the thread more then, so go ahead and talk about it.
If its aired, no need for spoiler box, if its something that hasn’t aired yet, spoiler box it.
It was fun while it lasted, but with ratings of only about 8 million and big production costs I don’t think it’ll be renewed.
Given that I wished they’d wrapped up the storyline instead of ending on a cliffhanger.
Nice use of Johnny Cash at the end. Hopefully Larry’s pessimism is unwarranted. 
Did it lose a lot of Prison Break’s audience or was Prison Break pulling in a similar number of viewers this year?
I really hope they renew this, it was really good. John got better and better as the series progressed - all the acting was above average IMO. The little girl in this episode was heartbreaking.
Anyone else think it was annoying that John sat there for a half hour telling his mom that dinner was burning? You’re going to save the damn world and you can’t get off your ass and take dinner out of the oven? Wtf?!
[spoiler]•Well, that’s one way to film a big gunfight, on a TV budget, and without setting off the censors with too much violence. 
(Although, personally, I would have tossed a fake severed head in the pool, after the third or forth guy.)
•Was that Bruce Wayne in the security pic, trying to buy the Turk? 
•And even if Cameron’s trashed…assuming her head made it through OK, I can think of at least one way she could come back next season.
(::Seconds after John buries the chip under a chunk of obsidian in Griffith Park, cue—::
::Cameron, naked, walks up behind him, taps him on the shoulder. “You said you were thinking of the number ‘4,859’ right now…and to cut the blue wire, ‘when it happens, you’ll know.’”.:: ) [/spoiler]
(Presuming there IS a next season. Knowing network TV in general, and Fox in particular, we’re probably going to get “Crappy Reality Game-Show 5,” “Celebrity Freakshow,” and “Stupid Slob with Hot Wife Just trying to Do Right by His Family.”)
I thought this episode had its moments, but it was a big downturn in quality overall. People went back to doing utterly unbelievable things.
-Cameron steals the chip, lies about it, then has a vaguely plausible excuse, and everyone just lets it go. But why did she lie?
-I guess they got the same foreign-OS-hacking software that Jeff Goldblum used in Independence Day?
-Suddenly Sarah is on a crusade to save every last random human life even if it puts her mission at stake?
-All the ridiculous implausibilities of the various graphics screens used in the hacking, yada yada yada
-The guy who has the Turk gets a cell phone call with a woman’s voice, and then in 24 hours is able to track down Sarah Connor and her real name, despite the fact that she has been legally dead for 8 years?
-So there’s this ridiculously contrived business where if you put too much voltage into the 888 chip, it will wake up. So when it does it starts trying to dial the internet. Gee, maybe you should have been performing this experiment with a computer with no network card or modem of any sort? One where no matter how brilliant a neural net computer takes over it, you can still defeat it with Mr. Magnet and Mr. Power cord? I mean, come ON.
Still, some good parts. I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t get renewed.
Yep, Cameron’s explanation about the chip might have made sense if she’d done anything about trying to get into the visual memory before being busted by Uncle Derek. As it happened, totally rang false.
I thought it was rather risky that Uncle Derek took John to see his five year old Dad, mawkishly sentimental but weird that neither of them even mentioned the possible time travel issues or anything.
We loved the Johnny Cash bit. As soon as Ellison started quoted Revelations to Dixon, my youngster began saying it along with him. Leading to a “You know that is from the bible, Mr.Cash didn’t write that baby, he recited it.” Five seconds later, there’s Mr.Cash doing his dirge thing whilst Fibbies come a-flying. That was pure gold right there, we were cracking up completely inappropriately as the body count just kept going higher. The cool points they get for that scene makes up for a lot, in my book.
I love Cameron’s pinocchioism, I’d enjoy watching that play out if they manage to bring the show back. We just dig Summer Glau, and hope she doesn’t wind up the queen of the geeky cancelled show.
Yes, jellyblue I’d smack my kid if he sat there hollering “Mom, dinner. Mooom, dinner’s totally burning. Ma, you gonna get that outta the oven?” instead of grabbing some potholders. Hell, he could have just told Cameron to get it out, she wouldn’t have even needed potholders!
I totally disagree. I thought these two episodes were easily the best of the season. Very, very effective on every level.
Is there any plausible explanation for leaving the FBI guy alive at the end?
A few guys with guns aren’t a big threat to the terminator - but he had the guy who’d figured him out and tracked him down right there, and certainly if he’s left alive he could eventually find a way to interfere with the terminator’s mission.
Overall, I like it and hope it returns. Not great, but good enough to be worth watching.
The only thing I didn’t like about last night’s episodes is that we didn’t get to see Cameron go to the prom.
It’s not his mission.
Well, sort of. Killing all the SWAT guys isn’t his mission either, but he recognized them as a possible impediment to his real mission. Same deal with the FBI guy - keeping him around could mean there will be additional hurdles to his mission.
But then again, maybe he didn’t realize that that guy in particular was the one who figured him out and found him.
Still, didn’t seem very terminator-like to me.
Perhaps he has a key part to play in bringing SkyNet up, and the Terminator knows this? Sort of like what the other T888 did, when he pretended to be that woman’s husband. He protected her.
That would be the only real plausible explanation to keep him alive, anything else would just seem – un-terminatorish.
I loved the last few episodes, despite a few faults already brought up. Anytime they start talking technobable, or show visuals on the screen (replete with little annoying digi-sounds), major roll-eyes.
Perhaps Cameron lied about the chip, because she didn’t want to argue about it until they had time to. But, alas, she was found out which just made her look more suspicious.
Another digg for the Cash scene.
The black FBI agent is also tracking Sarah Connor - and is doing it better. Thus, he can track the FBI agent.
I’m horrible. When they showed Agent Simpson (Catherine Dent) dead, I joked that now she can still be The Shield next season.
Ahh, that could be a plausible excuse. I’d except that. 
My guess is that somehow the FBI guy will do something in the future that will help the evil machines in their takeover. Thus he is on the"do not kill" list for the terminators.
Honestly though, after all that we've seen terminators survive, are we really supposed to be worried about whether Cameron would get hurt by a mere car bomb.Is it just a slick way to re-cast Summer Glau if the show gets picked up & she’s not available? They re-cast Cromartie after he had to re-humanize himself, perhaps Cameron now has to do the same thing?
The original Terminator survived being caught in a gasoline truck explosion. I’m sure Cameron survived the car bomb. The only problem is that she’s going to look pretty fucked up.
Absolutely. And then he later has the nerve to complain about his mom’s cooking. After the Apocalypse he’ll wish he hadn’t ruined the meal. Lazy teenager!
What was the deal with the gangster chick? I must have missed something, because I couldn’t figure the scene with Cameron giving her the gun.
I think they cut a bunch of stuff with her. I don’t know how she knew to drive them to internet cafe after her friends all got whacked. Made very ittle sense.