Inventors. Guglielmo Marconi
Leaders. Cyrus the Great
Philosophy. William Shakespeare
Religion. Buddha
Science. Michael Faraday
Inventors. Joseph Lister
Leaders. Alexander the Great
Philosophy. Francis Bacon
Religion. Moses
Science. Enrico Fermi
Three new ones, and I’m into the “gotta pick someone” choices.
Invention. Nikolaus August Otto
Leaders. Josef Stalin
Philosophy. Lao Tzu
Religion. Constantine the Great
Science. John Dalton
Inventor. Nikolaus August Otto
Leader. Cyrus
Philosophy. Plato
Religion. Constantine
Science. Johannes Kepler
Invention. Edward Jenner
Leaders. Genghis Khan
Philosophy. Thomas Jefferson
Religion. St. Paul
Science. John Dalton
All tough choices. Some of them because I don’t know enough about them, and others I picked because I know too much and infer a lot on the people who are left
Inventors. Gugilemo Marconi
Leaders. Josef Stalin
Philosophy. John Locke
Religion. Martin Luther
Science. Enrico Fermi
The only vote I changed this time is for Locke, when it dawned on me that Democracy had been around a long, long time before Locke was.
Invention. Nikolaus August Otto
Leader. Cyrus
Philosophy. Lao Tzu
Religion. Constantine
Science. Enrico Fermi
I’m going to lobby for voting for Jesus Christ and Buddha before voting for someone like St. Paul. St. Paul did more for Christianity than Christ in the long run, so don’t be fooled into keeping the namesakes around until the end.
Paul is #2 on my personal list (after Muhammad), and Luther is #6. I’m not sure which order I’m going to vote Buddha/Jesus/Moses.
Wowsers! PT exchanges high five with Tom Scud over Hitler!
Round #11
Inventions. Nikolaus August Otto
Leader. George Washington
Philosophy. John Locke
Religion. Moses
Science. Enrico Fermi
Washington, does he really have much influence outside the US?
Locke, as stated above he refined some principles of a concept that predated him by millenia.
Science, well we are now locked into a death struggle between the physicists and the biologists. I favour life over nukes.
Invention. Antony van Leeuwenhoek
Leader. Cyrus the Great
Philosophy. Confucius
Religion. Constantine the Great
Science. Enrico Fermi
Cyrus is still around, but Hitler is gone, eh? No wonder “voting” is discouraged and ridiculed.
Okay, two new faces: Leeuwenhoek’s real claim to fame is jacking off on a slide and seeing his sperm. And Constantine was more political than religious.
You’re confusing “achievement” with influence here. Hitler plunged the world into war, giving rise to Sonar, Radar, submarines, jets, jeeps, bazookas, rockets,(and NASA), computers, atomic energy, atomic weapons, the CIA, the GI Bill, Israel, the Cold War, genetics, the Civil Rights movement, as well as redirecting the entire film industry, boosting the desire for cars and interstate highway systems along with portable radios, plastics, television, and several advancements in medicine. But war can do that. All of the items listed above might have happened sooner or later, but they can all be traced with a straight line back to Hitler’s desire for conquest and revenge. And that’s major influence.
Not discounting Nappy by any means. Thanks to him, we have canned food and the Louisiana Purchase. Just two of the reasons I’m not targeting him yet.
Did you guys remember to save his brain like I asked?
Rockets? Genetics? Propaganda? Submarines? Roads? Radio? Cold War?
Hitler’s influence created these?
WWII was the virtually inevitable result of Versailles so why not give the credit for that shopping list to Lloyd George, Clemenceau, and Wilson?
Anyhow, that gamers milk is spilt.
Next round please.
Inventor. Joseph Lister
Leader. Cyrus the Great
Philosophy. Lao Tzu
Religion. Constantine the Great
Science. Ernest Rutherford
Just a copy-and-paste of my list from last round…
Invention. James Watt
Leaders. George Washington
Philosophy. Francis Bacon
Religion. Constantine the Great
Science. John Dalton
Not “created”, influenced. Name of the game and all.
Treaty of Versailles was one of the several factors, not the only one, that gave rise to Nazi Germany. However, the Treaty of Versailles IS directly linked to the war in French Indochina, better known now as Vietnam. Influence is powerful stuff.
Where you see no value to George Washington. This is clearly not a history game, is it?
Last day for this round…
Inventors. Guglielmo Marconi
Leaders. Alexander the Great
Philosophy. Lao Tzu
Religion. Constantine the Great
Science. Enrico Fermi
I’m not convinced that the discoveries of the 17th or 18th century are that much more important than the discoveries of the 20th. Scientists like Bohr, Dirac, Heisenberg, Oppenheimer, Feynman and many others had tremendous impact combined. However it’s much harder to point to the credit of any single scientist in that time, and Fermi shares credit for his accomplishments more than some of the other options.
Round 11 is over!
The losers are:
Category, Name, # of votes
I, Nikolaus August Otto, 5
L, Cyrus the Great, 5
P, Lao Tzu, 6
R, Constantine the Great, 10
S, Enrico Fermi, 6
Wasn’t a good round for the “Great” family - even Alexander received a few votes. Otto lost in a tie-breaker to Marconi.
By the way, here is the list of those who have been knocked off (up to round 11):
Original ranking, Name, Category, Lost in Round #…
9, Christopher Columbus, Invention and Exploration, 4
12, Galileo Galilei, Science, 9
17, Shi Huang Di, Leader, 4
19, Nicolas Copernicus, Science, 10
20, Antonine Laurent Lavoisier, Science, 6
21, Constantine the Great, Religion, 11
24, James Clerk Maxwell, Science, 8
28, Orville and Wilbur Wright, Invention and Exploration, 7
37, William TG Morton, Invention and Exploration, 8
39, Adolf Hitler, Leader, 10
41, Oliver Cromwell, Religion, 3
42, Alexander Graham Bell, Invention and Exploration, 6
45, Ludwig von Beethoven, Philosophy and Arts, 7
46, Werner Heisenberg, Science, 5
47, Louis Dagurre, Invention and Exploration, 9
48, Simon Bolivar, Leader, 3
49, Rene Descrates, Philosophy and Arts, 5
50, Michelangelo, Philosophy and Arts, 10
51, Pope Urban II, Religion, 6
52, ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, Religion, 10
53, Asoka, Religion, 8
54, St Augustine, Religion, 9
55, William Harvey, Science, 2
57, John Calvin, Religion, 7
58, Gregor Mendel, Science, 3
61, Nikolaus August Otto, Invention and Exploration, 11
62, Francisco Pizarro, Invention and Exploration, 3
63, Hernando Cortes, Invention and Exploration, 5
65, Queen Isabella I, Leader, 6
69, Sigmund Freud, Science, 1
71, William Conrad Roentgen, Science, 4
72, Johann Sebastian Bach, Philosophy and Arts, 3
73, Lao Tzu, Philosophy and Arts, 11
74, Voltaire, Philosophy and Arts, 8
76, Enrico Fermi, Science, 11
77, Leonhard Euler, Science, 7
78, Jean-Jacques Rosseau, Philosophy and Arts, 4
79, Nicoli Machiavelli, Philosophy and Arts, 9
80, Thomas Malthus, Philosophy and Arts, 2
81, John F Kennedy, Leader, 1
82, Gregory Pincus, Invention and Exploration, 1
83, Mani, Religion, 2
86, Vasco de Gama, Invention and Exploration, 2
87, Cyrus the Great, Leader, 11
88, Peter the Great, Leader, 7
91, Henry Ford, Invention and Exploration, 10
92, Mencius, Philosophy and Arts, 1
93, Zoraster, Religion, 4
94, Queen Elizabeth I, Leader, 9
95, Mikhail Gorbachev, Leader, 5
96, Menes, Leader, 2
97, Charlemagne, Leader, 8
98, Homer, Philosophy and Arts, 6
99, Justinian I, Religion, 5
100, Mahavira, Religion, 1
The remaining names are:
Invention
Alexander Fleming, Scientist, Invented Penicillin
Antony van Leeuwenhoek, Scientist, Inventor of Microscope
Edward Jenner, Scientist, Developed Vaccination for Smallpox
Gugilemo Marconi, Scientist, Invented Radio
James Watt, British Scientist, Invented Steam Engine
Johann Gutenberg, Scientist, Inventor of Printing Press
Joseph Lister, Scientist, Developed Antiseptic Methods
Thomas Edison, American Scientist, 1,000+ inventions
Ts’ai Lun, Scientist, Inventor of Paper
Leader
Alexander the Great, Macedonian Ruler, Formed Macedonian Empire
Augustus Caesar, Roman Princep, Founded Roman Empire
Genghis Khan, Mongol Ruler, Founded Mongol Empire
George Washington, American Statesman and General, Fought For Independence of United States
Josef Stalin, Dictator of USSR, Expanded Communism
Julius Caesar, Roman General, Ended Roman Civil Wars
Lenin, Russian Leader, Founded Communism in Russia
Mao Zedong, Chinese Dictator, Established Communism in China
Napoleon Bonaparte, French Emperor, Waged Napoleonic Wars
Sui Wen Ti, Chinese Emperor, Reunited China
William the Conquerer, Norman Duke and English King, Led In Norman Conquest of England
Philosophy
Adam Smith, Economist, Advocated Capitalism
Aristotle, Greek Philosopher
Confucius, Chinese Philosopher, Founder of Confucianism
Francis Bacon, Philosopher, Developed Scientific Method
John Locke, British Philosopher, Developed Democratic Ideas
Karl Marx, Economist, Founder of Communism
Plato, Greek Philosopher, Developed Platonism
Thomas Jefferson, American Statesman, Wrote Declaration of Independence, Louisiana Purchase
William Shakespeare, English Playwright
Religion
Buddha, Founder of Buddhism
Jesus Christ, Founder of Christianity
Martin Luther, Theologian, Started Protestantism and Reformation
Mohammed, Founder of Islam
Moses, Jewish Prophet
St Paul, Christian Missionary and Apostle
Science
Albert Einstein, Scientist, Physicist, Theory of Relativity
Charles Darwin, British Scientist, Theory of Evolution
Ernest Rutherford, Scientist, Developed Subatomic Physics
Euclid, Greek Mathematician
Isaac Newton, British Scientist, Theory of Universal Gravitation and Motion
Johannes Kepler, Scientist, Developed Theories of Planetary Motion
John Dalton, Scientist, Atomic Theory
Louis Pasteur, Scientist, Pasteurization, Germ Theory of Disease
Max Planck, Scientist, Developed Therodynamics
Michael Faraday, British Scientist, Discovered Electromagnetism
3 of my 5 went down… some damn tough choices, especially in the Religion category.
Inventors. Joseph Lister
Leaders. Mao Zedong
Philosophy. Thomas Jefferson,
Religion. Buddha
Science. John Dalton
Lister - once germ theory came about, practical methods for killing the things would’ve evolved regardless.
Jefferson - recycled Locke, and I don’t want to vote for Shakespeare yet.
Religion - Sorry, but Buddhism has little influence where I live.