Rudi Johnson will be lucky to have a job, let alone a starting one next season.
I don’t know how we feel about Sanchez, but I’d be very surprised if we passed up Stafford should he fall to us. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Crabtree is still a possibility even after picking up TJ Hous-yo-mama.
Seems like Sanchez is a real good fit for Seattle based on their system. Sanchez is a good leader and a cerebral guy. His arm is only average, but on paper he sounds like a young version of Hasselbeck. #4 might be a little too high for him and I’ve read that people are split on if he had a good or bad combine. I think people that were high in him backed off a little and people that were low on him were impressed, essentially he seems to have found the middle. Kiper seems pretty certain that he won’t slide out of the top ten and that someone will trade up to get him. Wonder if the Seahawks would be eager to move out of the spot now that they have their WR and look for depth on defense.
I could understand if they took Crabtree, it would give them a Fitz-Boldin type combo, but they have to find a replacement for Walter Jones on the line and it would put Branch and Burleson (guys they gave a lot of money to) in untenable positions. They also could desperately use a playmaker on defense. Seems like taking Crabtree would just come at the expense of too many other needs to add to a position with a lot of money already committed.
My money would be on one of the QBs or a DT/DE for the Hawks.
In other news the Bears actually did something in FA resigning Kevin Jones to a 2-year $3.5 Million deal. He gets $2M of that for this season. I really like this deal. The Bears desperately need someone to share the load with Forte so he doesn’t break down and Jones, assuming can regain his speed and elusiveness in the second year after knee surgery, is the perfect compliment. I really hope he gets some of that burst back, if he does the Bears have a huge steal for the next 2 seasons. Whatever the case I feel much better with him as the #2 back over Garrett Wolfe. It’s also nice to hear that Kevin Jones apparently really wants to be a Bear, that counts for a lot.
The rumors about trading Braylon Edwards are coming left and right. A lot of the talk is about the Giants.
An astounding number of Browns fans have hated the kid, even during his 2007 season as a star, because he went to Michigan and they’re OSU fans. Wanting someone on your favorite team to fail because he was on a rival of one of your other favorite teams at one point is bizarre to me, but there’s real hatred there.
So now that he had a bad season (partly his fault, partly terrible quarterback play, one of the worst coaching staffs since the bronze age, and a disfunctional organization) they’re out in force again.
Edwards is going to be a star in this league for 5+ more years. If we trade him at the end of the season where he regressed, we’re getting the least value for him we can. Next year is the contract year - we should take advantage of his bad 2008 to sign him to a cheaper long extension.
And what if we do trade him? Our top 2 receivers go from Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow to Donte Stallworth and Syndric Steptoe. Nuts.
AGREED: T.O. goes to Buffalo Bills for 1 year.
Damn, dude. You don’t waste any time. Nice reporting back to the Dope.
He’s a one-year wonder and he’s going to be a miserable failure in the NFL. Seriously- Sanchez is going to be the biggest bust of this year’s draft.
:rolleyes:
Most college QBs at big-time schools only start 1 year, and most that start 2 suck as sophomores. You’re gonna need a better argument than he was only good for one year, like evidence of him actually sucking. Remember Matt Cassel?
Matt Stafford started for three years. Matt Leinart started for three. Carson Palmer started for four. Vince Young started for 2 and a half. Brady Quinn started for three. Michael Vick started for three. Peyton Manning started for four.
Might be a bit premature with the :rolleyes: there.
Cassel, for what it’s worth, will have to do something outside the Pats’ system before I call him a good quarterback.
Sanchez can’t read defenses, which was disguised by the fact that he hardly had to play from behind at USC. I would rather have Nate Davis or Graham Harrell- and I’m even willing to bet that Pat White has a better NFL career.
You’ve already got one name change in the bank there. I wouldn’t take that Pat White-as-a-better-quarterback much further.
OK.
So how do you know?
I’m aware there’s a chance he’ll be drafted as a receiver, but given his Combine showing I’m fairly certain he now has more value as a quarterback.
Expert consensus. Not Mel Kiper and John Clayton but the actual “football guys” (on Sirius NFL radio, for example). Even if I hadn’t heard that he’s not very good, though, I’d still be fairly certain that he’ll be a bust. First-round quarterbacks bust at least 50% of the time no matter what, and when you look at the bust percentage for one-year starters (at any skill position) the number goes way up.
I honestly don’t know what to think about him. He looked really damn impressive in the Rose Bowl, but he couldn’t even beat out John David Booty as a starter, he’s had the benefit of having a great supporting cast at almost every position, and there are red flags about his character. I haven’t seen him play nearly enough to make an informed opinion, but I don’t think he’s a clear cut top 10 player.
In fairness, Booty was the most highly touted recruit of all the USC quarterbacks over the last few years (Palmer, Leinart, Cassel, Sanchez) and was expected to easily beat out Leinart for the starting job after Palmer left. People think of him as a sort of collegiate Jim Sorgi, but in truth he was always supposed to be a star.
This is not even close to being true. It’s very nearly the anti-truth. Most good, even adequate, NFL QBs started for 2, 3 or 4 years in college. Football Outsiders research found the number of college starts to be one of the two best statistical predictors of NFL success for high-drafted QBs.
As for Cassel
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Let’s hold off on Canton. He put up one season, with an 89 rating while playing with the best offense in the league, and against D-coordinators that had no film on him at all.
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I think it’s safe to say that backing up two Heisman winners is kind of a exceptional situation.
You just made my point. Of that list only 2 of those guys is worth a damn, the rest either suck or haven’t accomplished shit. I’m not saying Sanchez is going to be any good, but the “he’s a one year wonder” argument simply isn’t an argument at all. It’s a lazy buzz word that contains no actual thought or evaluation. In that one year he put up great numbers, that’s better than a guy playing average for 3 years. It may not be incontrovertible evidence of him being a NFL success, but it’s certainly not evidence of the opposite.
That’s not my point, you are inventing an argument. I never said that NFL QBs don’t start multiple seasons. I’m saying that it’s common for college QBs to only have one successful season. To dismiss Sanchez for only playing one year dismisses a huge percentage of college QBs. College QBs as a rule tend to fail in the NFL, regardless of how many games they start in college. Some of the biggest busts in NFL history were 3 and 4 year starters. His starting one year is evidence of nothing.
From T.O.'s opening remarks in Buffalo…
“This may not be the most ideal place for a lot of people…”
LOL 
Who posted that then?
Indeed.
Of course a huge number of guys are busts, but that’s no excuse for acting as if it’s all a crapshoot. Research suggests that the best predictors of NFL success are 1) games started and 2) completion percentage.
I just spent a few minutes looking over the list of NFL QBs, and I only saw three guys that were 1) anything close to a quality NFL QB and 2) had less than 2 successful years in college – Cassell, Kurt Warner and Shaun Hill. Cassell came from a pretty extraordinary situation, Warner has God on his side, and Hill pushes the definition of “quality NFL QB.”
I’m not saying Sanchez is guaranteed bust; I’m not even sure I would rank him behind Stafford, who is overhyped IMO. I’m saying it’s smart to be leery of dropping a first-round pick, with all it’s guaranteed millions, on a guy who had only one year as a starter.