What do Bill’s zipper problems have to do with anything? He’s not running for anything.
Nothing really, but don’t kid yourself that it doesn’t matter to the public. Happy families are a good political sell. Dysfunctional families, not so much.
Yes, I’m sure it will matter greatly to all the people who are going to vote Republican anyway.
And yet, the people who rail the loudest against dysfunctional families seem to have no trouble whatsoever voting for members of those families. This looks to me like something that people say they care about, but actually don’t.
I guess we’ll find out. The Clinton team thought it was important enough to investigate in 2008, according to Game Change.
Or maybe it takes some amount of a dysfunctional early life, in some form, to develop the near-psychotic level of ambition it takes to get to that level in electoral politics, so that’s all the voters get to choose from.
Or most voters, like most people, come from families that have function issues of some kind.
Pashnish, is she still “the fucking beast from Revelations” and does Obama still “have certain Christ-like qualities”? :rolleyes:
And how much better off would we be today if we had a President with a stiffer spine and far less naivete? Now try harder.
adaher, how about a good link or two?
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
Well, we’d be in more wars, I imagine. And of Hilary’s considerable positive qualities, I’m not sure I’d consider a ‘stiff spine’ among them. Politically, at least.
I’m not. I don’t really like her. I can’t really pinpoint why. I just don’t. (and before any women accuse me of being anti-feminist let me state that if Elizabeth Warren were contemplating a run for the White House I’d be MUCH more enthusiastic) Part of it may be that I don’t like the idea that relatives of recent presidents are running for President themselves. The very thought that it could be Hillary Clinton vs. Jeb Bush for the White House absolutely makes my skin crawl. Have we really gotten to the point in this country where only people from a couple of families have a viable chance to become President? Pitiful. Just pitiful.
What’s wrong with it?
That answers that question.
Please.
Do you think she’d still be trying to appease the Republicans after 6 years, if ever?
I dunno. What do the polls say?
OK, I’m giving some people a pass, here. Earlier I mentioned to Yog that personal comments weren’t to occur. I’m extending that to all participants.
I don’t care how much you care or don’t care for your fellow posters, denigrating comments about them or their motivations will earn warnings from this point on in this thread. Keep the discussion on topic and keep the personalities out of it.
I don’t like her either. I think she’ll be a perfectly competent president and I will vote for her if given the chance, but I’m not a fan of hers.
She’s better than Bill. He has given me the creeps for decades.
“Memories from your distant past could resurface today, Scorpio. You may wonder why you’re suddenly thinking about them, but they probably represent a release of old emotional hang-ups that have been holding you back. By midafternoon you should feel more focused, determined, and ready to take on anything. This is definitely a great day to start a new project or complete an old one.”
I assume you’re asking: “What’s wrong with having so few families involved in providing us with our leaders?” I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it: doing so smacks of royalty and one of the principles this country was founded on was that there was to be no royal leadership. That’s why we have Presidents (not sure if that’s proper grammar but I always capitalize the word “president” when I’m referring to the POTUS) and elections. We live in what’s supposed to be a democratic, not a monarchical, society.
Yes, but if they’re elected, I don’t think we can complain about a monarchy. I’m no fan of Jeb Bush, but the fact that he’s a Bush doesn’t bother me at all.
That, and family members of high leaders are among the most experienced at what the job actually entails. They have backgrounds that help make them prepared for high office even while their family member(s) are on the rise. IOW, they’re among the most qualified candidates. But you would refuse to vote for one because it smacks of royalism? In case you didn’t know, we don’t have hereditary offices here. People get into elective office because We the People elect them to it.
Now try again.
So you’re convinced that in only a small handful of families in this country of over 300 million people do its members “have what it takes” to fulfill the requirements of the job at hand, eh? Interesting. A view I DEFINITELY do not share. As to your snide comment about hereditary offices: that’s right. But if enough people like you keep voting then we will.
I can’t believe I’m typing this but I’m actually willing to give Jeb more of a look than just about anybody else on the G.o.P. side of things right now. Partly because he’s supposed to be the “smart one” of the Bush clan and partly because I haven’t yet heard him come up with any lame-brained ideas that would instantly turn me off to him. That’s not to say that I’d actually vote for him for President but at least I’d consider him which is more than I can say of just about any other G.o.P. name being floated around right now!