So that “time” when “illegitimacy was rare” was over 250 years ago?
Thank you for that. I was pretty sure that his contention was another of the many “things were better back in the old days (that exist only in my head)” claim that conservative white males like to make. Didn’t have the time to look.
Ah, so peer pressure does not affect people’s choices. Science!
I’ve seen chicken thieves with less weasel than that post.
Showing one study that addresses a number of factors does not disprove anything I said. And the fact that peer pressure is a major incentive in most people’s choices is an indisputable fact.
Science!
Who do you think the peers of unmarried people having sex are?
What’s that got to do with, well, anything?
Someone was trying to establish that social disapproval of unwed pregnancies doesn’t reduce unwed pregnancies. Social disapproval of ANYTHING reduces the frequency of the undesired activities.
Social disapproval of anything reduces the frequency of doing that thing openly. All you’re doing is pushing people to cover it up, not to stop doing it.
WHen that’s possible, you’re absolutely right. But to look at the Victorian era reduction in illegitimacy and conclude it is due to better birth control is pretty ridiculous.
Uh, the evidence points that abstinence education and other similar attempts at shaming sexual activity do not work.
It seems to me that many in our society are trying to do their best to shame those deniers of the evidence into doing the right thing and stop abstinence only education, the silliness here is that this teen pregnancy issue would not be as important if we had done the right thing for a long time.
One big contradiction I see is that if one is against abortion that means that teen pregnancy is going to be one of the results. If shaming was effective into getting us less pregnant teens it is likely that it was because abortion was more available.
Can we get back to discussing the 2016 GOP candidates, please?
We don’t think they should have sex out of wedlock either.
Which explains why all those posters with multiple pit threads dedicated to them disappear, never to return.
Rejecting evidence-based reality and substituting your own is an undesired activity. If social disapproval thereof worked, this discussion would not exist for two reasons:
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You would have quit posting by now.
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The GOP would have disbanded by now.
That should be easy for “bro with no ho” Lindsey Graham (unless the rumors are true).
Harry Truman said he spent his first six months in the Senate wondering how he got there, but since then he only wondered how the rest of them got there.
Not much has changed, has it?
I don’t care when or with whom they have sex. I just wish they wouldn’t reproduce.
The Postreports that Rubio is now leading the Republican field.
With the usual disclaimer that it’s way too early to tell, does Rubio end up being the GOP’s version of Obama this cycle (minus the “winning the general” part :D)? Jeb Bush so far has been playing the role Clinton did in 2008: over-hyped, well-financed early front-runner with lots of baggage who turns out to just not be that great a candidate in the end. Meanwhile, Rubio is starting to look like the fresh-faced, charismatic minority candidate whose youth and inexperience people are willing to overlook based on his inspiring story/oratory and his wisdom on foreign policy. (Of course I personally find his FP views dangerous and misguided, but that’s beside the point.)
Bush comes with formidable advantages, but his campaign to date has revealed a pretty lame underlying candidate IMHO. Assuming it’s not Bush, then who beats Rubio?
- Walker? Many of the same flaws as Rubio, with fewer of the strengths
- Cruz? Too detestable, especially among the establishment
- Paul? Too dovish on FP
- Kasich? Too boring
- Christie? Too corrupt (for the Romney campaign, anyway)
- Jindal? Too irrelevant
- Huckabee/Carson/Santorum? Too nutty
The only candidate who can credibly enough play president on TV to be a real threat to Rubio is Perry. His major weaknesses, “oops” and being under indictment by Democrats, will be totally surmountable in the GOP primary assuming his debate performances are just minimally passable. But if Rubio continues to build early momentum he could drain Perry’s own fundraising base.
It turns out that Rubio voted for the Florida “Scarlet Letter” law to implement Jeb’s above-described sociological notions:
Marco, if you prefer a newspaper you can read one-handed, that’s your business, but keep it out of our body politic.