Wow…I don’t smoke anymore(legal troubles and anxiety and such), but I have a tatt on my right arm that says “Local 4-20”, and I own local420.net…
I live in NorCal, so bud is everywhere. When I was a kid, we’d get quarters of good sence(and I mean real sence, not schwag) for about $20, schwag was the same price, and we only bought this stepped on stuff when we were desperate.
Then we moved on to Greenbud after highsKool. 50-60 for an 8 sack. The bombest of the bomb.
I hate to show off my ignorance, but will someone tell me the meaning/significance/derivation/connection/explanation of “4:20” as it relates to the topic? I’ve never heard it, believe it or not, even though it appears to be well known to everyone else.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Ok, I really don’t know where the 4:20 thing came from. I have heard about 10 different explanations and not a strong enough case fot a definitive answer. It’s nowadaze simply an icon/symbol among potsmokers.
As I understand it weed kills brain cells. NO. People sometimes don’t say too bright a things on here, mabye they don’t understand what they’re talking about. Alcohol kills brain cells. Marijuana tickles brain cells and DOES NOT kill them.
Silo, I think Biggirl was being funny. (Brain cells die anyway, so they may as well have fun in the process.)
I have been around pot smokers for about the last twenty years and am amazed that I have never heard this one before. Next time I get the opportunity I’m going to ask specifically about this term. (Probably everyone will nod in instant recognition, thus putting the formal seal of mental deficient on my ignorance.)
Silo, I think Biggirl was being funny. (Brain cells die anyway, so they may as well have fun in the process.)
I have been around pot smokers for about the last twenty years and am amazed that I have never heard this one before. Next time I get the opportunity I’m going to ask specifically about this term. (Probably everyone will nod in instant recognition, thus putting the formal seal of mental deficient on my ignorance.)
4-20 was started in California in the 70’s. I’ve always thought it was a police code for San Mateo. When I mentioned this on the board a few weeks ago, I was presented with a site that had a coupla guys who were basically in a hippy crew that supposedly started 4-20.
I moved to PA a few years ago and I’ve been in 2 hardware stores here. Neither sells screens without the whole faucet tip/screw in casing thing.(Yes only 2 hardware stores. Hard to believe.) And you only get 2 screens with it. I have been reduced to stealing screens from public restrooms.
The brass screens aren’t that bad, 2sense. You can usually find them at stores that sell pipes and pipe tobacco. The only brand name I’ve seen is Smokin’ Screens. They come in a thin, black package. You can probably smoke an ounce or two in a pipe with a brass screen before it develops a hole. Still, at 5 screens for $0.69, that works out to 5-10 ounces of smoking enjoyment from each pack of screens.
Or you could always buy a glass pipe or a brass protopipe (with tiny holes in the bowl) and you won’t need a screen at all.
Background story - I live in Prague, The Czech Republic. Up until Jan. 1 1999 ALL drugs were legal in personal use amounts. They passed a law that over-compensated for the problems they were having with foreigners and harder drugs, so now EVERYTHING is illegal. Luckily someone is parliament is introducing a bill to make pot legal, so it might be again next year.
Now that you know the story, this is what will make you jealous- I have not paid for pot the whole time I’ve been here (going on a few years now). Not once. And I smoke some of the kindest bud around.
When pot was legal a culture developed around it that was pretty neat. This is a very lush-growing area of Europe (vineyards, hops, etc.) that reminds me of the greeness of Montana in Spring and Summer. So a few people from every locale would act as growers- plant the seeds in some field to take care of, and then randomly seed wild areas for back-up. Harvest time would come, and then it got distributed, or the ‘dealer’ would just always have some on him.
Five years ago I walked into a pub and encountered this for the first time- I sat down, a guy came over and we tried to communicate in broken english and czech. He proceeded to pull out a bag of bud the size of a ziplock freezer-storage bag. He then rolls a HUGE joint (for those of you who don’t know European rolling methods, you use 2 papers, one attached to the end of the other at a 45 degree angle- makes a cone shaped joint) and just talkin away as if we weren’t in a public place and that he had enough pot on him to get thrown in jail back in the States for a very long time. We smoked, he then gave me some in his cigarette pack covering, and he left. I was wondering when he was going to ask for money, but he didn’t. And since then, I’ve never even heard of anyone buying it except foreigners/tourists buying from other foreigners on the street corners. If you are a local- then you are taken care of. Everyone had it, and you could always get it.
My friends dad grows it in his greenhouse now, so even after the law change our group of friends is fine. He has one of those spaghetti jars (tall glass jars with a sealed lid) full and sitting on a shelf- Anytime we’re there we can just take what we want.
Things I liked about this and other observations:
It totally made pot a normal relaxed experience. No worries about cops, money, nothing.
Neat little things like you get your own joint- you don’t have to share, there is plenty to go around. OR if you are sharing a big joint, you don’t have to toke and pass quickly - you smoke what you want, relax, chill, smoke some more, then pass.
I actually smoke LESS now! Pot has taken on the same status of beer. You all can go out and buy as much beer as you want and drink it all day (if you are old enough that is!)- But do you? I don’t. I drank beer to intoxication only on weekends, same now with pot. I haven’t smoked now for about 3 weeks and I have a baby-food jar full of sativa bud in my fridge. Same with most people we know. I think this is because we don’t think about it that much- its not something we have to “deal” with, it…just…is. Its hard to explain, but its true. Maybe its cultural- our friends don’t stress about it, so neither do we. Maybe I just work too much these days…
Smoking outside in a park on a sunny day is SSOOO cool! Even though the law has changed, the cops say they won’t bust people with 20 joints and under. So people still smoke publicly.
I’ve been able to cook with it more. Yum. My wife and I have also been testing it for medical reasons (menstrual problems, muscle cramps, headaches, insomnia).
I will have to admit that I went to Amsterdam and tried Skunk and got completely stoned out of my mind to the point of not knowing how to get back to the hotel…So maybe the stuff that my friend has isn’t the Strongest, but its still veeerrrrryyy nniiiiccceee.
Brass screens work and are CHEAP!!! Just accept the fact that they clog quickly and replace them sooner. I buy 10 screens at a time, and replace them after a few uses- you got a job! Spend the extra buck and enjoy the pull.
Take care! I’ll take a drag for you next time.
-T
I have so many thoughts going through my head that sometimes it’s hard to finish a
I’m back, and with a brand new bag. Happy 4:20 post neutron star.
I wanted to mention (at least what I think is) a urban legend. That smoking seeds makes you sterile. I have heard this many times and I think it’s lame. Have you guys heard this one through the grapevine?
Tom, When one of our friends from Germany we experienced the cone joint, complete with the cardboard spacer and all(he mixed his dope with tobacco though).
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Also, when our friend from Hamburg was staying with us, we experienced the above. WHat a bunch of annoying crap.
I mean, we were highsKool kids just tryin to get high…and this guy was hangin and talkin and lettin the joint go out and since we were used to the proscribed “Puff, puff give” methods of gettin high, we kinda got a little steamed…
(Brain cells die anyway, so they may as well have fun in the process.)
