My sister and our friends all refer to the Steelers’ top cornerback as Goddamn Ike Taylor. The way it’s said is completely dependent upon the way the play went at the time.
Let’s hope the inflection is positive this weekend.
Your post sounds like nearly all of the coverage on local talk radio. I like that people are favoring the Packers - it bodes well for the Steelers, in my opinion, but I have to admit that I’m perplexed by it.
Throughout the season and the playoffs, discussion about quarterbacks started with Brady and Manning, and whether Ben was close to being in their league or not. People talked about the teams to worry about. Rarely did I hear the Packers mentioned, and Aaron Rodgers was never at the top of anybody’s quarterback list.
Now, you’d think that Aaron Rodgers is the genetically harvested spawn of Brady, Montana and Unitas, and that BJ Raji is similarly the second coming of Lawrence Taylor or Joe Greene. The Packers suddenly are some team that can move the ball at will.
I just don’t get it. Sure, give them all the credit in the world for getting to where they did, but it seems like they’ve gone overnight from a 6th seed, 10 and 6 team to the League of Justice on the football field.
Now that it’s down to brass tacks, people have to make distinct choices about who/what to talk about. The Steelers/Ben just ain’t it because of the sexual misconduct allegations. If you can recognize that for what it is, as opposed to a talking point against one of the most feared NFL opponents of all time, you apparently are not left with much to talk about in Ben’s case:
Miami Redhawks records:
Miami University is in Oxford, Ohio, and all records are from the 2008 media guide.
Most Pass Attempts, Career - 1,304 (2001–03)
Most Pass Attempts, Season - 495 (2003)
Most Pass Completions, Career - 854 (2001–03)
Most Pass Completions, Season - 342 (2003; also a MAC record)
Most Pass Completions, Game - 41 (vs. Northern Illinois, 2002; MAC record)
Most Passing Yards, Career - 10,829 (2001–03)
Most Passing Yards, Season - 4,486 (2003; also a MAC Record)
Most Passing Yards, Game - 525 (vs. Northern Illinois, 2002)
Most Passing Touchdowns, Career - 84 (2001–03)
Most Passing Touchdowns, Season - 37 (2003)
Most Passing Touchdowns, Game - 5 (did it at Ohio in 2001 and at UCF in 2003; tied with Sam Ricketts)
Most Total Offense Yards, Career - 11,075 (2001–03)
Most Total Offense Yards, Season - 4,597 (2003)
Most Total Offense Yards, Game - 485 (vs. Northern Illinois, 2002)
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games - 14
Most 400+ Yard Passing Games - 4
Most Games w/4+ TD Passes - 7
Highest Completion %, Career (Min. 300 attempts) - 65.5% (2001–03)
Highest Completion %, Season (Min. 100 attempts) - 69.1% (2003)
(Tie) Most Games in a Season w/200+ Yards Passing - 14 (2003; NCAA Record)
(Tie) Consecutive Games in a Season w/200+ Yards Passing - 14 (2003; NCAA Record)
NFL records:
Most regular season wins in a season, rookie QB — 13 (2004)
Longest regular season win streak to start a career for a NFL QB — 15 games (won all 13 starts in the 2004 season, won first 2 games of the 2005 season)
Most wins as a starting quarterback in first five NFL seasons (reg. season only) - 51 (from 2004–2008)
Highest passer rating, rookie season — 98.1 (2004)
Highest completion percentage, rookie season — 66.4% (2004)
Highest single-game completion percentage, rookie season (min. 20 attempts) — 84.0% (completed 21/25 passes at Dallas on 10/17/2004)
Most games with a completion percentage of 70.0% or higher, rookie season (min. 10 attempts) — 6 (2004)
Most games with a completion percentage of 80.0% or higher, single season (min. 10 attempts) — 4 (2007)
(Tie) Most touchdown passes, Monday Night Football game — 5 (11/5/2007 vs. Baltimore Ravens)
First QB to start two Conference Championship games in first two seasons in the NFL (2004 & 2005)
Youngest starting QB ever to win the Super Bowl (2005; second-youngest QB to play in the Super Bowl, behind Dan Marino)
Second quarterback in NFL history, along with Peyton Manning, to register three perfect passing games during the regular season, and the only quarterback to ever register two perfect passing games in one regular season.
Lowest passer rating for a Super Bowl winning QB — 22.6 (Completed 9 of 21 passes for zero touchdowns with two interceptions)
Tied for most seasons with one or more postseason starts in the first five years in the league since 1960, with four starts (tied with Bernie Kosar, Donovan McNabb, and Eli Manning).
Pittsburgh Steelers franchise records:
In seven seasons, Roethlisberger has many individual accomplishments that are record performances in Steelers history.
Career records
79-31 (.718) record as starting QB (includes a 10-2 playoff record)
.718 winning percentage is the highest among all Steelers QBs with at least 20 starts
Highest Passer Rating (Min. 100 attempts) — 92.5
Highest Completion Percentage (Min. 100 attempts) — 63.1%
Highest Yards Per Attempt (Min. 100 attempts) — 8.04
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games — 16 (includes one playoff game)
Most 400+ Yard Passing Games — 3
Most 500+ Yard Passing Games — 1
Most 3000-Yard Passing Seasons — 5 (2006–2010)
Most Consecutive 3000-Yard Passing Seasons — 5 (2006–2010)
Most 4000-Yard Passing Seasons — 1 (2009)
Most Consecutive Games With a TD Pass — 15 (from December 3, 2006 through November 18, 2007)
Most 4th Quarter Comeback Wins — 19 (tied with Terry Bradshaw)
Most Games with a Passer Rating over 100.0 (regular season; min. 10 attempts) — 42
Most Games with a Perfect Passer Rating — 3
Most Games with 40+ Pass Attempts — 14
Most Games with 20+ Completions — 32
Most Games with 30+ Completions — 5
Most Games with Completion Percentage of at least 60% — 67
Most Games with Completion Percentage of at least 70% — 27
Biggest contract in Steelers history (eight years, $102 million)
Season records
Highest Completion Percentage — 66.6% (2009)
Most Touchdown Passes — 32 (2007)
Highest Touchdown Pass Percentage — 7.92% (2007)
Highest Yards Per Attempt — 8.90 (2005)
Highest Passer Rating — 104.1 (2007)
Most Passing Yards — 4,328 (2009)
Most 300+ Yard Passing Games — 5 (2009)[162]
Most Pass Completions — 337 (2009)
Lowest Interception Percentage — 1.29% (2010; 5 INTs on 389 attempts)
Fewest Interceptions (Min. 10 attempts/game) — 5 (2010)
Single-game records
Most Passing Yards — 503 (Completed 29 of 46 passes for 503 yards and 3 touchdowns on December 20, 2009 against the Green Bay Packers)
Most Pass Completions — 38 (Completed 38 of 54 passes for 433 yards on November 5, 2006 against the Denver Broncos)
(Tie) Most Consecutive Passes Completed, Single Game — 15 (Completed 15 straight on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins on Monday Night Football. Bubby Brister also completed 15 straight on October 1, 1989 against the Detroit Lions.)
Highest Completion %, Game (min. 20 attempts) — 85.7% (Completed 18 out of 21 attempts on November 26, 2007 against the Miami Dolphins on Monday Night Football)
(Tie) Most Touchdown Passes, Game — 5 (Threw five TD passes in the first half against the Baltimore Ravens on a Monday-night game November 5, 2007. Tied with Terry Bradshaw and Mark Malone)
Rookie records (achieved during 2004 season)
Most Pass Attempts — 295
Most Pass Completions — 196
Highest Completion Percentage — 66.4%
Most Passing Yards — 2621
Most Touchdown Passes — 17
Highest Yards Per Attempt — 8.88
Highest Passer Rating — 98.1
Wins as starting QB — 13
Postseason records
Highest Completion Percentage (Min. 50 attempts) — 61.1%
Highest Passer Rating — 85.4
As a Packer fan I absolutely think Ben belongs in the Brady,Manning conversation and I think Aaron can work his way up there for sure. I think Big Ben is completely under appreciated, at least in terms of what he has accomplished on the football field (off the field stuff is a different discussion).
Having said that, I think it is understandable why there is so much talk about Aaron Rodgers this post-season. New and upcoming, instead of same old same old (even if the same old is excellence). Throw in the “throwing off the Brett Favre monkey” and the uniqueness of trying to follow a legend, and I do think it adds to the hype, but he is pretty good.
I think as fans we think to much about what the press is saying and all that, but I don’t think that has much to do with what happens during the game. In the end it will be about execution and making plays, and not about what Peter King wrote about Roger Goodell. These two teams are so similar it is kind of scary. The defenses are very similar, not just because they are 3-4 but because they are masterminded by just the absolutely most creative defensive minds in the game. Both have mobile quarterbacks that can extend the play, the Steelers have a better running game, the Packers a better passing game. Booth won their Championship game by holding on after dominating and using a defensive TD for the final margin.
I am anxious and excited, how can you not be?
The media narrative seems to be shaping up that Aaron Rodgers is the Good Guy and Big Ben is the Bad Guy. This way, if the Steelers lose the good guys win and if the Steelers win, the bad guy gets redeemed. which is stupid because winning doesn’t absolve him of anything he does off the field (and I am saying this as a Steeler fan). But that seems to be the story line they are sticking with.
Well, they’re fighting the forces of evil, so it makes for a good narrative.
You force yourself on just two women …
Ha. So naive…
On August 8, 2009, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette published details of an affidavit filed as part of a motion by two of the other defendants named in the suit to relocate the case from Washoe County to Douglas County. In the affidavit, Angela Antonetti, McNulty’s former co-worker, delivered a sworn statement that McNulty had bragged to her about having consensual sex with Roethlisberger. As part of the affidavit, Antonetti said she was “absolutely shocked” upon hearing of the case on the radio on July 21. Antonetti explained, “I knew that [her] lawsuit and false allegations would unfairly and unjustly hurt Mr. Roethlisberger”.
According the affidavit, Antonetti claimed that McNulty had revealed she was hoping she had gotten pregnant with a “little Roethlisberger”. Antonetti also claimed that she had been asked to travel to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in August 2008 in an attempt to “run into” the quarterback. In response, Antonetti advised McNulty she “shouldn’t try to chase Mr. Roethlisberger”.
And as far as the other one goes, I’ll give you my biased personal opinion if you don’t mind: 28yr-old single superstar NFL QB partying with college chicks? Hell yeah!!! Needs to “force himself” on women to get laid? Seriously? You really believe that? Risky and poor judgement from a PR perspective making himself the potential target for goldigggers like the one formally documented above? Yes, guilty on both counts. 
He paid his dues. Live and learn. Don’t worry Hamlet, you’ll have plenty of opportunity to despise him even more on Sunday after the Steelers emerge victorious once again. 
Yeah, because we know that young women in bars eschew the wealthy, famous, attractive, athletic type guys.
Nice to know that by the Mince standard, no professional athlete could ever force himself upon a woman. I bet LT wish he knew that before the whole recent trial for forcing himself upon an underage forced prostitute deal. “Your honor, I’m wealthy, famous, attractive, and athletic. I rest my case.” That case would have been dismissed so fast in Minceland!
It does make me wonder, though. There are hundreds of wealthy, attractive, athletic professional ball players, and several dozen of them can also add famous to the list. And out of this entire pool, Ben seems to be the only* active player with the bum luck to get slandered by some floozy – and twice at that! Don’t stand next to him in a thunderstorm, because you’re liable to be hit by lightning! (Twice!)
[sub]Ok, Kobe too. But only once – only half as unlucky as Big Ben, I suppose.[/sub]
That’s not what I meant. If you inferred that, then I guess I was unclear.
But thanks for the inflammatory statutory rape anecdote/analogy. They allow minors in bars now?
This is why the Steelers will win the game. Brett Favre must remain relevant!
ESPN’s ticker just said that Pouncey’s chance of playing is 75%. :dubious:
espn.com is currently running a poll: "Which defensive player would you rather have on your team? 2 choices: Troy Polamalu or Clay Matthews?
Interesting poll results so far:
Total votes: 145,000 : Polamalu 59% Matthews 41%
International Votes: 6,600 : P 64% M 36%
Pennsylvania: 9,700 : P 70% M 30%
Wisconsin: 5,700 : P 19% M 81%
Why would Polamalu not dominate in Pennsylvania?
Alabama: 1,300 : P 69% M 31%
Yes. Never been to an “all ages to enter, 21 to drink” place?
Is there still a video link of Pouncey frenching his brother at the draft party? Mysterious shit, I tell ya…Rothlisberger barely escapes rape charges, he gets humped in the pile by Mendenhall…and Pouncey practically made love to his brother on draft day.
What gives?
Pouncey figured there was a good chance he was going to be drafted by Pittsburgh, so he learned the local rituals. He found out that at least 25% of Steelers fans fuck their sibling, so he was showing them the best way he could that he was now one of them.
No. I go to bars that serve nothing but alcohol. As a minor, why would you want to enter? As the proprietor, why would you allow them to enter?
In regards to the above:
Despite the facts in the case, laid out in brief by Nadir, Hamlet claimed (perhaps jokingly and I missed it) that R-berger forced himself on the woman (women), as if R-berger must have forced himself on them “…because we know that young women in bars eschew the wealthy, famous, attractive, athletic type guys.” I guess I should have included the qualifier “no young women in bars…” to prevent quixotic’s miscalculated reply.
The best evidence to me that this incident was not a crime comes from the prosecutor. This guy had the opportunity of a lifetime thrown into his lap. He clearly despised Ben and did all he could to soil his reputation and yet he stated publicly (after releasing every embarassing detail - embarassing to Ben and to the young woman) that there was -
No crime committed.
I can’t comment as to what went on inside that woman’s head except to say that she clearly had a drunken night with a drunken celebrity and did things (like a lot of college aged women) that she regretted. Lets get over it.
In what universe is 70% not domination?
Anyway remember that half of Pennsylvania are fans of that green team next to New Jersey and despise the Steelers because of their consistent (relative) success.
Many establishments offer music (sometimes live, sometimes pre-recorded) that – get this – often appeals to people in the 18-21 age group. Appeals so much so that, in occasion, a proprietor can charge a fee just for entering, even if no alcohol is consumed. Moreover, it is not uncommon for groups of mostly 21-year-olds to not uniformly be the same age, i.e., some members of the group can be 22, some perhaps 23, and some can even be as young as 20. A bar that allows these 20 year olds access has a competitive advantage with such a group over a bar that splits the group up due to an age restriction.
I won’t even get into the possibility that a person can obtain what is commonly known as a “fake ID,” which misrepresents a minor’s age, because if you can’t possibly grasp why a bar would want to admit more people rather than less, then you need more schooling than I have time to give you.
I’m not sure what you think you changed by adding one word. You’re saying, tongue-in-cheek obviously, that it’s outside the realm of possibility that this young woman was attracted to Big Ben because of his money, fame, build, what-have-you (although the guy looks like an especially stupid Neanderthal, so I’ll have to disagree about the “attractive” descriptor). To which I say of COURSE she was attracted to him, for all those reasons. You seem to think that attraction has some bearing on the consensuality of their bathroom endeavors, at which point I call your argument foolish. To put it bluntly, she obviously didn’t eschew R-berger’s affections out in the bar, but that has absolutely no bearing on whether she eschewed his dick in the bathroom.
But this is a tawdry topic (especially because it embarrasses me how many Steelers fans quickly don either the “Drunk bitch had it comin’” or “Lying golddigger” mantle to defend their twice-accused, obviously ill-fated hero). Let’s talk about something a little cleaner: Why can’t Hines Ward man up and just say that he made it rain at the strip club? What a puss.
Hamlet claimed that Ben forced himself on the woman. I replied (yes, tongue in cheek) that Ben must have forced himself on her because no woman ever goes for celebrity athletes, and if an athlete does have sex with a woman, it must be because he forced it upon her, right?. At least that is what I meant, though admittedly I worded it poorly. I could think of no other reason why, in light of the facts, someone could conclusively state Ben forced himself on the woman. I don’t think she had anything coming and neither of us will ever know if she is a lying gold-digger. I hate the Steelers (and Ben), ftr.
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You seem to think that attraction has some bearing on the consensuality of their bathroom endeavors, at which point I call your argument foolish. To put it bluntly, she obviously didn’t eschew R-berger’s affections out in the bar, but that has absolutely no bearing on whether she eschewed his dick in the bathroom.
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Fair enough, but my ultimate point is that there is no way, in light of the facts, anyone not Ben or the woman, can claim he forced himself on her.
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…if you can’t possibly grasp why a bar would want to admit more people rather than less…
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I didn’t say they wouldn’t want to admit more people, I asked why they would admit minors. Allowing minors into establishments whose primary purpose is alcohol consumption is almost begging to be sanctioned, because many of those minors will find a way to lay hands on the alcohol, especially if they do attend with those who are legally able to consume alcohol themselves.
Yes, I agree, this is a tawdry hijack and I’m ashamed I encouraged it. I now return you to your regularly scheduled Steelers marching to the Super Bowl thread.