He is? He hasn’t made his rounds on TWoP yet. Nor should he.
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TWoP? Link please or translation?
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Holy shit. He hit her folks. Not shoved. Hit. Watch it again. With a shove you put your hand flat up against someone and then apply force–with a hit, you apply force before you contact the other person.
Phil’s talking to to Jonathon didn’t work-Jonathon’s reaction to being given a lecture by Phil was “Why did you screw up Victoria and force me to hit you?”(paraphrased) ) I agree with whoever upthread said that Victoria looked like she was crying/scared, not crying/frustrated. So much for my “They’ve decided to make Jonathon into a non-villian” theory.
What’s interesting is there’s a rule, written in stone–no exceptions whatsoever, that if you attack (not bump or something) another person in the race, you’re out, no questions asked. Why isn’t Jonathon out? Colin was nearly out last race until the tapes proved that he didn’t trip the old military guy. If tripping is grounds for being eliminated, why isn’t beating up your girlfriend.
And what’s with Klan-girl? “Look at the these creatures. They breed like animals.” Ick. Has there ever been a less likable bunch of racers?
Other than that, boring leg. Too many bottlenecks (you gotta have some, they had at least 2), the challenges were dull and I don’t have anyone to root for.
Plus, they did cheat with the editing last round. Gus and Hera were over 2 hours ahead of the old folks when they left this morning. The editing showed Gus and Hera still looking when Old Folk’s boat arrived. If that’s the case, it took Gus and Hera something like 2 hours to find the Pit Stop and Old Folks something like 4 hours. And the sun didn’t move that much. Like I said–it’s fine to compress time to make it look competitive, it’s not fine to edit the sequence of events.
Bah! Worst. Season. Ever.
Fenris
One other thing. Other than the fact that Jonny’s a Wife-beating psycho, why is he (who owns a mansion and a yacht) so hyper about a 10 second delay in the race and missing out on a cheesy trip to Mexico courtesy of American Airlines? I thought he kept reminding he was rich, rich as…as…as Calvin Cooledge! Put together!
This week’s thread is already 12 pages long or so…
Um.
One other thing. I hope this episode (and the old folk’s classiness) shows TAR what a bad idea the “Rich Americans playing a game should beg for money from locals who are waaaay poorer” is.
There’s gotta be another penalty that could be applied.
And has Jonny-the-Wife-Beater really been showing up there? If so, what’s his user name?
Geez!! He hit her!! My first reaction was anger and then anticipation because I figured they’d get the boot because Jonathon had hit a contestant. Then I realized that’s one of the rules of Survivor, not TAR. Damn it. 
I bet it’ll be a new rule next season though. What an asshole.
As for Kendra’s statement, no surprise there. She showed what kind of person she was lastweek.
As for Jonathan’s behaviour, it’s already been said.
As for the previews for nextweek, SLING THAT BITCH, AND WATCH HER FLY! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! 
I don’t remember if it’s TWoP or another board someone said he’s been posting to. Which, in itself, is a violation of the rules because contestants aren’t supposed to talk about the Race at all until after their elimination episode airs. Anyway, the “mental magician” has apparently been spinning things on the eps aired so far in his favor, complaining that the editing was making him look like an ass. I’d love to see how he spins this week’s meltdown.
“It was a CGI Jonathan inserted by Bruckheimer!”
Nope–it is one of the TAR rules. There’s an interview with Colin And Christie where they say that
I’d bet that they’re misremembering the verbiage and it says “injure another participant” (so that no-one shoves a cameraman or something) in which case he should be o-u-t out.
JayJay–if you figure out which board (and what username) could you post it here? I’d love to read what he has to say. Thanks! 
Yeah, this has been a dud of an idea. My recommendation: make them give up any accumulated money, give them the regular amount of money (or perhaps half) at the start of the next leg, and apply a 30 minute penalty at the end of the next leg. In a leg like this, where there shouldn’t be more than an hour separating top from bottom that should make for a little bit of sweating.
Anyway thoughts on this episode.
- Looks like they had an extra day in Dakar; I wonder where they spent the night?
- Not-so-subtle message of this episode: Communism = Slavery. (Mind you, I agree with the sentiment, but it’s laid on a bit thick.)
- First time this season where the choice of detour task didn’t seem to make any impact on team order.
Adam/Rebecca
Adam gets the best line of the episode(“Jonathan’s the biggest wiener around”), Rebecca wins the Doesn’t-Quite-Get-the-Whole-Slavery-Thing award with her escaped line and the team arrives at their usual customary two rungs from the bottom.
Don/Mary Jean
The inevitable. They were fun to have around and had a great earthy streak(Don’s “fickle finger of fate has diddled us”, Mary Jean’s sly “7 inches is rather long”), but they really weren’t good racers.
Freddy/Kendra
Two episodes ago, they were the “Who?” team. Now, Kendra has single-handledly given them the Ugly American honors shared by Marshall & Lance last year. Won this leg thanks to the fact that * is a wuss. I’m still not sure if I can tell Freddy from Jon now.
Gus/Hera
In one episode illustrates the tragedy (Gus’ heartfelt breakdown at the slavery house) and the comedy (the beer escapades) of the human experience. And I think he’s dropped at least 10 pounds so far through the race; at the start he was corpulent, now he just looks to be no worse than Marshall & Lance from last season. I’m kinda hoping they stick around a bit longer, they’re turning into the one of the most entertaining teams to watch.
Hayden/Aaron
Hayden comes off a bit better in the airport scuffle than the previews made her look; the steroids line is still below the belt, but Bolo was being uncharacteristically obnoxious. Otherwise, perfectly solid racing. (And just what did Haydem do to get the best time on the roadblock?) Aaron at least seems to be enjoying himself.
*/Victoria
For the first 40 minutes or so, * was almost a facsimile of a decent human being. I’m thinking to himself, maybe he isn’t that bad. And then comes the pit stop. No, he’s worse than I thought. Dude, you have a Ferrari, you can afford a vacation in Mexico. You’ve come in second with only a minute behind the leader. Going on a harangue at your obviously hysterical wife just confirms that you’re the biggest asshole I’ve ever seen on my screen. FOAD.
Kris/Jon
Team Nice gets their lowest position so far but clearly in no danger of going out any time soon.
Lori/Bolo
Don’t really see them lasting too long, they’re awful at getting from place to place.
BTW, the asshat has a website: Asshat.
A quote from that site regarding Jonathan’s behavior on TAR: “Jonathan was colorful and crazy on the show…the stress from the race brought out the unknown…”
Yeah, “colorful”–that’s what I call it. Colorful. :rolleyes:
You know, I’m an agnostic, but I’d actually say prayers if it would make it more likely that Jonathan ends up doing that stunt…
But, you know that by the next episode Jonathan and Victoria will be all canoodly. Yuck! I tell you, that woman deserves everything she gets from Psycho-Jonathan. If she doesn’t have the brains and the gumption to walk away from him (preferably in the middle of the race) then she’s just going to continue to be the punching bag.
Well, the AR thread from this board for the 11/23 episode had this post.
The TARflies forum is here. I don’t really hang out there much, so I’m not sure where the Jonathan posts are, though.
I don’t want to hijack the thread, but I disagree with you very much.
It’s not as easy as some make it out to be. Yes, I would have the gumption to hit him back if he hit me, but I’ve never been in that position. Ever.
Were I someone who had been abused (as has been speculated about the poor woman) I might not have the nerve to leave him. Don’t discount the women who think it really is normal, who saw their fathers behave that way, or who are just too scared and embarrassed to admit they are being abused. She absolutely does not deserve this treatment. Would you say that a dog deserved to be kicked if he didn’t bite his abusive owner? What about a child, or an elderly parent? Yes, she puts on the brave face most of the time, and the editing may be totally skewed to make this look more dramatic than it has been, but I’m starting to doubt that.
Sorry, [/end hijack]
Just a big “WORD” to the whole thread on Assathan.
And I also agree that the making a team beg in one of the poorest regions in the world is so tacky, I think that is why the other teams actually pitched in to help.
Ok, first let me say that I am NOT defending Jonathan. I am in total agreement with everyone here about what an asshole he is and I would bet lots of money that he is physically abusive of Victoria in their normal lives.
However, at the end of tonight’s episode I am almost certain that he hits her backpack and not her self.
I know that doesn’t make him any less disgusting, and it was probably just the cameras that spoiled his aim, but I just wanted to clarify that he didn’t actually hit her, and so I doubt the producers can kick him out for assault (based on what we were shown).
I’ve never been to TARflies, until just now, but this has got to be either Jonathan or Victoria. Besides the fact that this person looooooooooooves them, their little tagline thingy next to their name, is identicle to the one on the “Asshat” website link above.
Wow, Jonathan really capped off tonight’s Trifecta of Human Rights Abuses. I predict we’re just two or three episodes away from a HUGE meltdown that will put them out of the race, possibly (though not likely) by intervention from the producers. I’ve never seen Phil berate a contestant before…it looked like he just wanted that jerkass out of his sight, when he told J. to “talk to Victoria.”
Not to be glib or anything, but the slavery/Berlin Wall theme made me think, man, this show’s just jonezin’ for another Emmy…isn’t that being greedy? 
Lori & Bolo are not long for this race. They have NO sense of direction, especially in big cities.
Don/MJ apparently came up with the perfect solution for the NEL penalty…beg money off other players!! Obviously that won’t work very well later in the race, but it is an incentive to stay in the good graces of other teams. (Imagine if J&V finish last in an NEL…no wait, I don’t want to think about that.) I’m ambivalent about the old team being gone; on one hand they’re annoying. On the other, they certainly came up with the dirtiest lines on the show. MJ’s “seven inches” line had me incapacitated with laughter for 15 minutes, thank God for Tivo’s pause button…