I think it would have been cool if the Lizard had used his newly formed police lizards as the first wave of his attack on Ozcorp. Instead we just see the cops changed and then…nothing until they’re shown being cured.
Also the webs would vanish as soon as they were spun. This was most noticible when he was swinging under the bridge.
Otherwise it was a pretty good movie, but not the equal of 1 or 2.
The first Raimi Spiderman didn’t have Jameson either, did it?
Oh yeah, it had him. Gave the movie a sense of humor that is really lacking in the new film.
There were some attempts at humour, but I found myself rolling my eyes at them a lot. I don’t think it helped that I was sharing the cinema with mostly 14 year olds, and it’s hard to laugh at something they think is funny.
Saw this Saturday night and man was that a fucking waste of time and money (for everyone involved, audience and filmmakers included). I was laughing my ass off the whole time and not because of any intentional humor.
Where to start?
[spoiler]A fantastic amount of pouting and crying: Jesus fucking Christ, get a grip on yourself little girl! And I’m not talking about Gwen Stacy. Seriously, there was more crying in this movie than Steel Magnolias.
Incredible coincidences:
-Gwen Stacy, our protagonists’ object of desire, just happens to work at Oscorp, and also just happens to be the intern of the man that Peter has snuck in there to [stalk?].
-Oh, and her father is the police Captain in charge of tracking down and capturing Spider-man.
They beat you over the head with plot points:
-Am I the only person who felt like the filmmakers assumed everyone in the audience was an idiot? Dr. Conners longingly looking at the reflection of his existing hand, as it appears as if he has his missing arm [back?]. Yes, YOU HAVE ONE ARM, WE GET IT.
-Gwen explaining back to Peter at the end, “He made you promise to stay away from me, didn’t he?” I suppose to catch anyone up who may have missed it in the scene that WE JUST SAW 90 SECONDS AGO.
Strange behavior:
-Peter scams his way into Oscorp, then sneaks into a lab clean room containing a rotating spider web with hundreds of glow-in-the-dark spiders crawling around on it. He not only walks right into the room, he immediately walks right into the center of the web and starts touching shit. Seriously, you don’t want to at least, I don’t know, take a lap around the room and see what you’re dealing with?
-When the Lizard breaks into the school, he’s kicking the shit out of Parker until Peter realized what he needs is in his backpack, so he grabs it with a web (which he obviously already has), and jumps to (or gets thrown into, I don’t remember exactly) the next room, and emerges with his suit on and that somehow turns him into this super-badass who the Lizard can barely even touch.
Total nonsense:
-Uncle Ben leaves Peter a message on his phone the night he dies, when Peter forgets to pick up Aunt May, which Peter is too upset to listen to until the end of the movie. When we finally get to hear the message at the end of the movie, it’s Uncle Ben doling sage advice and ending with “You’re my hero” or something like that. Wasn’t he furious with Peter when he left that message?
-Speaking of Uncle Ben’s death, what the fuck was that about? So the guy had a gun in his pants. Why jump for it? It’s not like he was waving it around, blasting random people on the street, he didn’t even shoot the clerk, it was a smash-and-grab (without even the “smash”) and the gun was just something that fell out when he trips. There was no reason to grab for the gun.
-The whole bully thing. The guy’s a complete tool (named “Flash.” Seriously?) who beats the shit out of him, then later Peter mildly embarrasses him in front of the whole school, and after Uncle Ben dies, suddenly Flash is all empathetic and they’re like BFFs.
-When Gwen’s father dies, Peter gives us a very pained “NOOOOO!” Um, you two didn’t like each other, at all, right up until literally like 15 minutes ago.[/spoiler]
I’m certain there’s plenty more dumb shit to point out that I’ve forgotten, but that should suffice to make my point.
I know they were deliberately trying to make it all dark and serious a la Chris Nolan’s Batman trilogy, but they completely and utterly failed in every possible way. All of the “dramatic” scenes were laughably overplayed and completely stalled the movie.
Seriously this was an atrocious piece of shit.
Incredible coincidences:
That’s just conservation of detail in a narrative, with respect to characters. Most stories have characters that fit together in very surprising, convenient ways.
Is Les Miserables an atrocious piece of shit?
They beat you over the head with plot points:
Gwen’s explanation at the end isn’t exposition. Of course we know that. But we …
You know what? Fuck the spoilers. The thread title warns about spoilers and the movie’s been out for a month.
Of course we knew Peter had promised Captain Stacy to stay away from Gwen. We didn’t know Gwen knew it - she had to be a pretty smart cookie to suss it out. It was pretty obvious she didn’t know for a while - she was all, “Why’s Peter being a dick to me?”
While I agree with the larger points you make, “Flash” is name the character has had since 1962 Flash Thompson - Wikipedia
I’m not reading for spoiler’s sake, but I had to share this: the title of this thread is what convinced my sister to NOT go see this in theaters and wait for a home video release. I read it to her, and she said that “pretty good” wasn’t enough to go wasting money on it.
She’s been a huge Spidey fan ever since the first movie, so I can only surmise that Spider-Man 3 disappointed her a lot more than she let on.