Here ya go:
It is not worth debating what Trump knows and doesn’t know. He doesn’t know anything, we would be debating in a vacuum.
Yes, change his mind is very much likely. This was a prepared speech, written in full sentences by someone else. In the past whenever he makes a such a speech, he virtually always contradicts it within a day or two.
I almost hope he does. Tomorrow all the Repubs will be talking about what a gracious speech he made. It was the greatest first term in Presidential history, a lot of people say that. Let them then defend his reversal. But he doesn’t have Twitter anymore, I just love the picture of him in his bunker jonesing. He’ll probably try to call FOX News. And Slimy Sean will probably take the call, and Trump will start out like in the video, and he won’t be able to help himself and will start ranting.
I don’t see any reason for explicit coordination to be required for a coup. Trump has been effectively calling for people to attempt actions like this, albeit in slightly coded language. He kept on saying that people needed to do something to defend our freedoms and stop the vote. There’s a reason why his posts on Twitter and such were pulled down–they were full on incitement to continue.
Before this started, Trump had a speech where he told them they needed to do what they could to stop this, and even had Giulliani say that it required trial by combat.
We know that there were plans–plans to kidnap and hold people hostage.
Trump is like a mafia boss. He doesn’t explicitly say things, as it’s how he avoids legal liability. As someone else posted, it’s like saying “Who will rid me of these meddlesome priest?” He then leaves it to the group to actually try to come up with a plan.
Fortunately, the type of people who could be led by this with Trump are not the best planners. They were not well-organized and didn’t know the first thing about how to actually stage a coup. But that doesn’t mean it still wasn’t an attempt at one.
If Mitch McConnell had gone along with this, especially from the start, the Insurrection would have had a far greater chance of succeeding.
However, the fact that one player did not decide to break his oath of office explicitly does not exonerate the rest of the Republican party.
I think the Governor of the Bastille thought the same. Just a buncha people, no co-ordination.
It’s often said that the jester is the only one that can speak truth to power.
Seth Meyers had a closer look with no jokes at the recent historical events of January 6th.
Josh Hawley is done, btw, possibly resigning by the weekend. Someone has to be the Senatorial fall guy on this one, and even his donors and mentors have officially turned against him:
Again, I urge all of you to take 10 minutes to call your own Reps and Senators to urge them for impeachment. And I don’t want to hear any ‘well, my rep is Representative Trumpy X, it won’t matter’ loser talk- call the shithead anyway and tell him/her to support impeachment and to vote on it ASAP.
Well, my rep is Garcia who supported the insurrection.
Both of Missouri’s major newspapers have called for him to resign.
So? Call the son of a bitch anyway. I have Cornyn and Cruz, you think that stays my tongue?
Donald Trump committed an Insurrection against the United States of America and it is our duty as citizens to advise our Representatives and Senators as to how we wish them to respond. Period.
Well, Trump’s a cop killer now.
The just reported death of the police officer isn’t the lede, they just edited it into the story. There will probably be a better link elsewhere by the time you read this.
But what’s up with the information we’re being given by the Capitol police anyway? I don’t remember hearing about a critically injured police officer yesterday…and when the death of an officer was reported prematurely they flat out denied it without mentioning a critically injured officer.
Were they downplaying for Trump?
I’m also going to say that with the death of a cop, someone that was just doing their job- the odds of Trump getting removed before the 20th just increased.
It is delusional to think Hawley will resign. He has plenty of support from his constituents, and the ones who don’t now will forget about all this in a few months.
Mine is the one talked about below. In Southwest Virginia, talk about a beatdown. Can we invent another word for “scathing”?
This letter was written by conservative, retired Patrick County Judge Martin Clark:
A letter to Morgan Griffith, my congressman:
Dear Morgan:
I am a Barry Goldwater/Bill Buckley conservative. Deana and I have voted for you many times, and she’s sent you modest contributions in the past. I was not enthusiastic about either candidate in the recent election. I described it as a choice between Caligula and Mr. Magoo.
That said, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won, and this was a free and fair election.
As a conservative and a judge, I trust the states and my brothers and sisters on the bench to resolve election disputes, not you. That’s what the Constitution mandates. And courts across this country, both state and federal, with judges from every political background, have repeatedly ruled on the merits that this was a free, fair and accurate election.
Let me say that again, because I actually read the decisions: Courts have ruled on the merits. (See, e. g., Judge Russell’s thirty-four-page, one-hundred-and-seventy-seven-paragraph Nevada opinion in Jesse Law, et als. or Judge Bibas’s lengthy opinion for the Third Circuit in the Pennsylvania case of Donald J. Trump for President et als. v. Secretary of Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, et als. ) The President’s oft-repeated statement that courts—often controlled by his own nominees—have never given him a proper hearing and/or dismissed his claims on purely technical grounds is an outright lie. Courts have considered and dismissed any number of legal, factual and Constitutional arguments.
Of course, it’s also difficult for courts to decide the more outlandish, crackpot accusations of election fraud when the President’s attorney, Rudy Giuliani, fails to produce ANY evidence in court, before a judge, at a hearing set for just that purpose, but instead tells Pennsylvania’s Judge Brann that the campaign “doesn’t plead fraud . . . . This isn’t a fraud case.”
Your feckless, self-serving actions in Congress have given vitality to a dreadful lie, and in doing so, you have damaged a bedrock institution in our country, the court system. Your failure to accept state-certified, judicially determined electors is an attack on the integrity of every man and woman who serves as a jurist. Succinctly put, you have invited people to disregard the rule of law simply because they disagree with it. We got a nice dose of that yesterday in Washington. I am ashamed of you.
People believe you and respect you, so you and your political co-conspirators can convince good folks, my friends and neighbors, that Donald Trump caught a raw deal in a crooked court system and they need to rebel against this injustice. You have thrown judges and hard-working election officials under the bus to serve your own purposes. I’ve known you for years, and we’ve tried cases together. You are a legal scholar and a smart man, and you have to know that the president’s legal arguments are wholly without merit, just a sad concoction of falsehoods and desperate gibberish. The fact you know better makes your recent conduct that much more disappointing.
As an aside, the Republican United States Attorney General, the Republican governors of Arizona and Georgia, hundreds of bipartisan local election officials, and the President’s handpicked leaders of the CIA, FBI and cyber security have all announced his many claims of election fraud are not true. Even his loyal Vice President has refused to follow him down the destructive path you chose.
You will be lauded and celebrated here in our county. Your seat is forever safe given the politics of this region. Yet, the sad truth is you have aided and abetted an attack on the court system, honest election officials, states’ rights and our republic. You are no conservative, Morgan, just another peacocking politician drumming up attention, votes and money based on convenient falsehoods. Keep an eye on the Blue Ridge District next election. You’ll win, but there’ll be two write-ins for Conor Lamb.
Martin Clark
Exactly. Don’t let up. Tell these mendacious assholes what we think of them and what they need to do to even begin to restore their reputations.
Fuck, man, if the United States of America isn’t worth three phone calls then… fuck. Do what ya gotta.
I saw something about some of the traitors waving badges and cop IDs as they stormed the Capitol but I haven’t seen any news source that says it.
That clip reminds me of this bit from Pork Lips Now! [linked to 4:10].