Eta, n/m. It was funny, tho.
Gonna run my poll again:
Is a coup attempt happening?
- I thought so when I first saw this thread and I think so now
- I didn’t think so when I first saw this thread but I think so now
- I thought so when I first saw this thread but I don’t think so now
- I didn’t think so when I first saw this thread and I don’t think so now
0 voters
And several of them were elected and re-elected in the same election they claim was fraudulent. Shouldn’t they recuse themselves for that reason?
Not exactly sure what you meant by the poll, but how is there NOT a coup attempt happening? The question is how much support Trump is going to get, correct?
That would make sense, but since the whole thing is built on lies, they’re effectively freed from tying anything together. Yes, if there is fraud in one election, there is likely fraud in others, but again, it’s all lies, so no need in dotting i’s and crossing t’s.
With a Senator is on board, you are right.
Actually, I don’t think McConnell has any personal affection for Trump and doesn’t mind seeing him leave Washington. He probably wishes that Trumpism itself would recede. I don’t think he wanted to install Trump; rather, I think he understands that Trumpism is a monster that he helped create and that he can’t just put it back in the laboratory. He fears Frankenstein while benefiting from the chaos it creates on his behalf.
This ^
We’re fortunate that there wasn’t a razor thin election result. Had the election come down to just Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, the Republicans would be getting their coup on for sure.
We are very lucky this wasn’t a close election. If this had been the 2016 election, with Biden winning a slim majority in a few swing states and losing the popular vote, I have no doubt that Trump would be getting a second term. Not only do Democrats have to win, they have to win by enough to overcome the elelctoral disadvantage as well as the margin that Republicans think they can get away with non-democratic means. And that margin is increasing.
Also, look at what’s happening in down-ballot races and institutionally within the GOP. More and more GOP candidates are claiming election fraud even when they lose by wide margins.
The natural response is “Well they can claim whatever they want - they’ll still lose.” People who make that assumption are missing the point, which is that there is a dangerous and radical shift that is taking place within one of the two major parties.
That shift will have consequences. One is that these many of these conspiracy theory candidates will actually win their elections easily in districts that tend to support them. The significance of this cannot be overstated because these 100-150 candidates will constitute a solid baseline within the Republican party. Other candidates will have to gravitate toward a base that outright rejects democratic norms in election after election.
They will feel free to radicalize, and radicalization will be the norm. Democratic majorities won’t be dealing with a party that bargains hard against tax increases; they will be dealing with an opposition that claims they are not a legitimate political alternative and that they are deliberately undermining the public trust of the positions or offices they hold. That is a powder keg.
A deep financial crisis or national security emergency, is the match.
And for those who think that the Republican Party will soon wake up from the fever dream and return to what it was prior to Trump – all four newly elected Republican Senators signed the letter. McConnell may hold the reigns now, but these Senators as well as other MAGA-hat-wearing young Senators like Josh Hawley and Tom Cotton are the future of the party. There’s no going back.
“Elections that we lost were fraudulent. Elections that we won were fair.”
They have no problem thinking this way.
Essentially, the Trumplican Party does not want to hold elections anymore. They are going all-in on dictatorship.
As the OP I ran a similar poll about a week or two after I started this thread… wanted to see how/if results changed.
As if an ongoing pandemic that will last for years to come despite the best efforts of a competently led Federal Government isn’t match enough?
Most likely it’s because he realizes that if somehow or another Trump does overturn the election, that it would only be a matter of time before his head is on the chopping block, possibly literally.
SENATE REPUBLICANS DURING IMPEACHMENT: The vote of the people, not the Senate, should determine who is President.
SENATE REPUBLICANS TODAY: Lol, fuck no.
What he fails to note is that the Dems may have control over both houses when the next Republican wins the Electoral college. Due to massive voter suppression and kremlin interference, there is definitive proof of election fraud. Note to mention the Dems candidate might well win the Popular vote, as 2016. It will then be “business as usual” for the Dems to overrule the Electoral college and put in the Dem prez.
And, the Dems could do it with 100% more truth in their assertions.
NO, McConnell did NOT pack the Supreme court. There are still only Nine Justices. “Packing the Court” has a specific meaning in American politics. He stacked the court, if you will.
Right now 11 out of 50 GOP senators have signaled their intent to challenge the election. That’s 11 more than there should be but that seems to imply that they are a minority. A few more might jump on but I don’t expect it to be half. Pence has given no indication that he will go along although I expect him to let them have their say. That’s nowhere near enough to say that the party as a whole wants to overturn the election.
But they won’t because they have a different value system – important distinction between the two parties.
If half (not even half) the country has no problem with anti-democratic behavior, you have a problem.