The American Middle Fucking Sucks

Well, I’m insulted you couldn’t say this without all the cussing, but I understand you need to follow the traditions of the pit and cuss. No one listens unless your OP is 50% obscenity.

and…

Well see, that’s the problem. I can’t figure out what you’re whining about. I think, mainly inferring from other posters, that you are mad because the vast undecided american voting population doesn’t march in lockstep with you against Bush.

You know what I think of that? Big deal! If the Dem’s can get a decent canadate up, he won’t win. But Dean, Clark and Hillary aren’t close.

I don’t hate the voters who got fooled by the butterfly ballot, I hate the Pubbie operative who designed the ballot. I hate the sin, not the sinner.

I could really use a smiley with a halo right about here.

cough Democrat operative cough

I used to feel this way until i realized that statistically it really probably wouldn’t change anything.

Well, at least when I let fly with the expletives it isn’t personal.

Well that’s what comes of letting other people do your thinkin’ for ya. If you read what I’ve written, I’ve said it a number of ways.

Not really. There’s ample evidence that LaPore was a GOP mole. Here’s a paragraph that sums it up:

Howyadoin,

'Scuse me, EC, could you duck your head down a bit? There’s a whole buncha glare coming off of your tinfoil hat…

Thanks, that’s better…

Oh, and we need a cleanup on Aisle 6, the OP has soaked through both the Pampers and the crying towel…

-Rav

Thanks, treis.

Oh, and Evil Captor, could you cite the paragraph you quoted? I’d be interested where the voices in your head are coming from.

Regards,
Shodan

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt but posting a link to something that doesn’t seem to illustrate your point is kinda deceptive. It makes people think you’ve backed up your point. Or can you quote me something from that page that mentions a “Democratic operative”.

Also, unfortunately Evil Capture’s quote comes from the infamous world of blogs: http://www.jaycaruso.com/archives/002102.html

Hmmm, maybe just some dummy designed it.

Oops, apologies to Evil Captor for misspelling.

Do you have a real cite? Hmm, thought not.

C’mon boys, LaPore’s suspicious party-switching has been widely reported. If you want to discuss politics, you should, you know, read some. Here’s a couple cites for ya:

http://archive.salon.com/politics/red/2001/05/09/blue/

http://www.sideshow.idps.co.uk/snov01.htm

here’s an interesting discussion of the topic:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/3778
The most thorough information about LaPore comes from a book by Jake Tapper, “Down & Dirty: The Plot to Steal the Presidency.”

How typically Republican, to smear opinions you don’t share. I cordially invite Shodan and the Raven to kiss my hairy ass. Though frankly, it would be an insult to my hairy ass if you were actually to do so.

Well, you better mark what you want kissed, 'cause you look all ass to me.

Seriously, citing blogs as your reference is what december used to do, and I seem to remember you thought it was bad when he did it.

Mr. Kettle? There’s a Mr. Pot for you on line 2 - he says he wants to share something about your color.

I don’t think of them as "opinions’ - more as “paranoid delusions”.

Nonetheless, Merry Christmas.

Regards,
Shodan

elucidator: Mostly, it isn’t the passivity and neutrality of the “middle” that grinds my stones so much as the passivity of the electorate at large. That a citizen of the most powerful nation in history would choose not to vote is appalling. Each individual American citizen has, what? ten times the power of any other nation’s citizen. I have never not voted, even when it meant voting for Dukakis.

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This exchange should be posted in any future thread where someone is fulminating about the outcome of the 2000 presidential election.

You mean the one where GeeDubya actually lost the popular vote, and a certain segment of the population discovered a previously unrecognized devotion to the Electoral College as the very soul of the Republic? The one where GeeDubya lost the popular vote, and proceeded to rule as though he had recieved a landslide mandate?

That the one?

Yep.

The very selfsame election, the results of which led to a concerted and sustained effort by the Democratic Party to reform the election process, including a drive to scrap the Electoral College.

At least I think that’s what happened in some parallel universe.

Some are going to view Libya’s recent agreement to give up all it’s WMDs and open itself to international inspections without the firing of a single shot or the loss of a single American soldier’s life as possible evidence Bush’s Mid East policy is paying some dividends.

Brace yourself because some in the middle will sway. Sorry.

Wait… no I’m not.

Post Iraq Ergo Propter Iraq

After Iraq therefore near Iraq? Will you be my Latin for Dummies translator?

He means no matter what goes wrong, Bush is to blame, and no matter what goes right, Bush is not responsible.

Regards,
Shodan

Can’t see why. My point was that if you added another 150 MILLION voters, they would probably not make much difference to the overall picture. It’ s not like it’s all members of one party sitting home. That’s the whole point of polling, right? (Although I don’t have much faith in a random sampling of 1,000 meaning overly much about the opinions of 300 million.)

And that doesn’t really have much to do with Florida, which was extremely unusual in many respects. When was the last time the vote came down to less than a few hundred votes? (And that’s looking at it generously, in terms of what really went wrong, but let’s not do that here…)