I thought Dahlia Lithwick’s take on the show was interesting – link.
And I can’t bear to miss the first 15 or 20 minutes – I’m going to tape Survivor and watch it later.
Loss or no loss, Troy fucking owned this task.
Wow, I didn’t see that one coming. The way he was ripping into Omarosa, I thought for sure she was outta there.
It’s clear she won’t be the final winner, though. Trump just plain doesn’t like her.
OTOH, blaming her leadership for the Isaac Mizrahi debacle seems a bit unfair – since she had zero idea who he was, how could she pick the best person to approach him? (Hm, maybe that’s the point?)
Does anyone recall what the various things went for? $6K for Regis, $10K for Russell Simmons… what were the others?
Plus, WTF was that final item up for bid?
Damn, I’m enjoying this show far more than I expected to…
Yeah, I was surprised by that too. And not only Trump – both of Trump’s lieutenants wanted to see Omarosa go, which surprised the hell out of me.
I wonder: do you think Trump was serious about not firing Jessie if she hadn’t been such a doormat? 'Cause she did suck at negotiating.
I like that Trump doesn’t suffer fake pleasantries lightly.
I agree with Dewey that Troy really shined this time. He totally saved that Mizrahi negotiation and the Russel Simmons one as well. I thought the wrong team won and that the difference was just the luck of the draw in celebrities. (who’d have thought Carson Daley would draw that much interest? I wouldn’t walk down to my basement to see Carson Daley. I imagine it was the event as much as anything that drew the interest)
Tammy completely sucked and really seemed to irritate Daley with her Tiger Woods fixation. She also sucked with Regis and came off like a bitch when she wouldn’t touch the “Champions” sign. She deserved to get canned as much as anyone.
having said that, Jessie’s patronizing pitch to Mizrahi. her obvious desire to see Omarosa (or whatever the hell her name is) fail and get fired, plus her over all phoniness (remember how she backstabbed whatsherface last week) made her a worthwhile firee.
I hope someone on Trump’s team noticed Troy’s performance this week. It was amazing how he managed to connect with the celebrities in such guileless ways.
:eek:
has heart attack
keels over dead
My opinion on this is, if you don’t know the celeb you’re going to be hitting up for a favor DO SOME RESEARCH! I mean I googled him and the first hit, on Oxygen, gave a very nice biography on him, and several video clips. Just a bit of research could have saved embarassment in the long run.
I think this is part of the reason Trump fired her. He knew she backstabbed her “friend” last week and he’s already shown that he doesn’t like THAT behavior either.
Ah well. Just my 2 cents.
Wasn’t Trump’s lieutenant present during the Mizrahi pitch? I also imagine that as executive producer of the show, Trump is privy to the dailies, meaning that he may have already seen some of their performances.
Also, don’t forget Troy’s shrewd play with the queer eye group, removing his belt, knowing full well what their reaction would be.
I don’t see Omarosa, Tammy, Kwame, or Heidi lasting to the end.
Tammy is lucky that her teammates are phenomenally talented. She should’ve been fired about three boardroom meetings ago. Hell, Omarosa should’ve asked for her in this boardroom, because Tammy was by far the worst person at this task.
Omarosa hasn’t figured out that being strong – which she is – and being needlessly cruel and bitchy – which she also is – aren’t the same thing. They may be related to each other sometimes, but they’re not the conjoined twins she’s turned them into in her life.
Also, what’s with her passive-aggressive refusal to give her teammates a frickin’ phone number? Either say no and end the discussion or let them have the number. Don’t hang up in the middle of the phone call. Talk about no class. (And it takes a particular brand of classlessness to comment publicly on someone else’s lack of class, no matter how true it might be.)
She’s lucky that Jessie is as unseasoned as she is. Jessie’s bad at reading people – she should’ve figured out that Mizrahi wanted her to talk faster, especially when he told her so point blank – and she’s too Wisconsin nice. If anything, I thought her blunt assessment of Kristi last week was a sign that she might be more assertive in the boardroom than it seems she was capable of being.
If she’d defended herself better – or at all – in the boardroom I might not be missing my eye candy. I liked her quite a bit, frankly, but she really did deserve to be fired this time.
Thank God he fired Jessie. Everything she said drove me up the wall. It was like that Freaky Friday movie, with a 10 year old girl in a grown-up body.
And how hard is it to pronounce Mizrahi?
It was interesting that Rocco’s thing went for the most, mainly IMO because they talked him into giving an actual valuable prize. Kind of proof that they could overcome crummy celebs with good ideas, which makes it more fair.
Oh, I thought I was the only one that noticed this!
Why was Tammy even allowed to continue negotiating with the celebrities? “So, let’s go back to the golf thing, because I don’t think you’re a big enough star. Who else can you bring to the table?”
“So you, and Phil, and Regis would have this great weekend…”
“We’re thinking about a weekend in a chateau in France.”
“Who will pay the expenses?”
“Ummm, well of course a donation from YOU will help, but, ummmm, I’m just really talking out of my ass here so I have no idea.”
So, are the players not allowed to talk about what goes on in the boardroom? Jessie gave her “doormat” advice last week and look how well it worked out. Didn’t anyone tell her that Trump can’t stand people that don’t stand up for themselves? She was a doormat herself and that helped her get fired (along with her grade-school negotiating).
My overall impressions:
Troy can turn any situation around quickly and effortlessly.
Omorosa is a cold, self-centered classless bitch.
Tammy doesn’t know when to shut her mouth and will pay for it soon.
The Nick and Amy “romance”? Please. They were drunk and celebrating their victory. Let them win and get likkered up a few more times and you might have something.
The mixing of the teams was good for balancing (8 vs 4 is just unfair), but also the two tasks since the mixing have left almost no room for the “shaking of the moneymakers”. Heidi is now out of her element.
But I knew who he was…which was true of all of Versacorp’s celebrities (except the Third Watch guy, and with that, the obvious idea is “Walk on Role,” which is going to be bid on.) Plus, I know that someone with teenage daughters and too much money will bid on Carson Daley.
With Protoge, I just recognized the Queer Eye guys and Isaac Mizrahi - everyone else was “and you are?” “and what could you possibly have that I want?”
Again, the task seems unbalanced which doesn’t seem like a good way to figure out who’s the best/worst. (And as bad as Jesse was, Tammy was by far the worst negotiator of the evening.) Heidi did well when we saw her work, Omarosa did ok when she was the “pilot” (obscure fact about Hilary’s campaign), and Troy was amazing - just flat out saved them from total humiliation. Kwame, from what we saw, was the other person who belonged in the boardroom.
So, are we ready to predict a final winner?
And would that prediction be … Troy? [/Church Lady voice]
Robin, for sure.
Especially for someone named “Omarosa,” for crying out loud.
It seems to me that that the boardroom folk (Trump and the other two) seemed to really mention the fact that Omarosa is/was a good PM, had good leadership potential, etc. (even her teammates that didn’t like her said that they respected that), but she was rude as hell - to her face they kept coming back to the rude attitude. Seems to me they often do this with the person they don’t fire (but that everyone thinks they are going to fire): they kind of yell at the person and tell them what they’re doing wrong and than sit back to see what happens the next week.
I think that’s another test - can the apprentice accept criticism and modify behavior. Sam didn’t really pay attention to anything he was told in the boardroom and he got fired the next time. If Omarosa exhibits some serious changes in the way she interacts with the others -I bet she stays (assuming she ends up in the boardroom again right away). If she exhibits the same “rude” behavior - she’s out. Trump kept saying he saw something in Sam - and seemed to be giving him tips - but Sam didn’t really act on any of that because he thought he was doing such a good job.
Just a badly-articulated thought…
Not badly articulated at all! I think you’ve really hit on something that had gone completely over my head. Who’da thunk, but it seems like Trump is really taking this far more seriously than I would have expected, and is, in fact, trying to groom people as part of the process, and not just destroy them.
Hmm, I want to meditate on this some more – but what a great insight, mcms_cricket!
I was floored that an evening of Disco Bowling with the Fab Five (all of them funny and talented and hotter than glowing horseshoes at the moment) went for $2000 less than an evening with no-talent dumbass oxygen thief Carson Daly (who if his career were CHICAGO would be singing “You can like the life you’re livin’…” along about now). I can only assume that Daly planted somebody in the audience.
Oxygen thief, heh heh, good one. Last night on his show, Carson called the girl who won, who’s from Ridgewood, NJ. This is a town that comes right out of the John Hughes canon. She came off as quite the spoiled brat. She said that what made her happiest about the whole thing was how jealous everybody was. After the phone call, CD commented that had he known how much the winning bid actually was, he might have actually introduced her to more than 2(!) people.
BTW Sampiro, your sig, which I love, was delivered by Superintendant Chalmers.
Point: Does anyone else think that Heidi looks like a no-class crackhead with a bad makeover? Other than Omarosa, that is?
I am really really surprised at how much I like the show…