If you want to work closely with Donald Trump, that means you want to work in Manhattan. That means you will be working with people who don’t work on Jewish holidays. Like Donald said, that’s life. And I’m saying this as a stone atheist who’d like to see all religions go away, today.
Editing and wardrobe choices are interesting things. I hadn’t even noticed Theresa’s rack in previous weeks, then last night my jaw dropped.
Believe it or not, I totally missed Theresa’s tits – so I went to check out her bio to see if there was a picture.
Omigod – guess what she does for a living? God help us all.
They’re pretty hard to miss – here you go.
And just for the record, I find Diogenes the Cynic’s “just lazy” characterization of the observant Jews who went to HIGH HOLY DAY services to be highly offensive (not that he gives a shit). The High Holy Days, aka “The Days of Awe” aren’t even remotely comparable to Christmas, which is technically a minor holiday in Christianity. The characterization really gets under my craw, because it comes off (even if unintended) as very anti-Semitic. Like observant Jews shouldn’t be allowed to participate (or should prevent themselves from participating) in certain events if their schedule for praying might interfere for a few hours. It’s exclusionary, and smacks of exactly the kind of discrimination that we’ve been fighting for years. And it’s just crap.
I never said anything about Christmas so i don’t know where that’s coming from. I also never made any judgement about the importance of the holiday. I’m an atheist. I couldn’t care less. I would have said the same thing about ANY religious holiday. The specific religion could not be less relevant to me. I would have said the same thing about Christmas or Easter or Ramadan or L.Ron Hubbard’s Birthday. I wasn’t “excluding” anybody, believe me. I wasn’t making a judgement about the specific holiday or religion, I was expressing an opinion that I think it’s unprofessional to go to a job interview if you intend to leave in the middle of it for a religious observance that you know is coming up.
I also never said anything about whatt people should be “allowed” to do and I’ll state again that there is nothing “discriminatory” in my attutude. Discrimination means treating different groups differently. If I said that it Christians should be allowed to have Christmas off but Jews should not have Rosh Hashana then I would be discriminating. I wasn’t doing that. I was just expressing a completely generic opinion about the unprofessionalism (IMO) of people going on this show and then expecting time off to observe religious holidays.
Incidentally, Lenny is Jewish himself and he thought the other two were using the HHD to get out of work. Is Lenny an anti-semite too?
If you want to paint me as a Nazi, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Oh…and FYI…Christmas is THE religious holiday in Christianity. It might not be the one with the most religious significance but it’s the most widely observed and it’s the one with the SECOND most religious significance. It’s certainly fair to compare it with Rosh Hashana.
Lord almighty, I don’t know if I am more horrified by her profession (paging Dr. Freud!) or by that misplaced apostrophe in her bio. God help us all indeed.
From others who jumped on your bandwagon. I should’ve made a new paragraph and labeled it as being directed to the general audience and not just you, specifically.
I couldn’t care less what you couldn’t care less about. To characterize Jews who follow the tenets of their religion by observing the holiest of days as “just lazy” is crass and uncalled-for. You know damn well that there’s a significant difference between silliness like L. Ron Hubbard’s birthday and the High Holy Days of Judaism. I especially found it offensive coming from you in particular precisely because you do understand the significance of the day/period and yet painted them as “just lazy” in spite of it. And frankly, I don’t buy your contention that you’d call religious Christians “just lazy” for wanting to attend church on Christmas or Easter in lieu of working. Not to mention that even if businesses were open on those days, expecting someone to work on those holidays is still different from expecting a Jew to work on the High Holy Days, since there’s no prohibition from working on Christmas or Easter in the Christian faith, but there is a prohibition from working on Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur (the 7 days in between are excluded from this – see my previous link).
To which I call bullshit. It’s most certainly not unprofessional to request time off to observe the Jewish High Holy Day, especially not in a city like New York where it is quite clearly understood and accepted. And since these people either quit their regular jobs or leave their other businesses behind for 15 weeks, it can hardly be compared to a mere “interview,” even though that’s what the show refers to it as. In effect, these people are working for Donald Trump for the duration of those 15 weeks and should be afforded the same consideration as any other employee for the observance of religious holidays, which, I remind you, Donald Trump didn’t think it was “unprofessional,” and it’s his company they’re working for.
Nor did I claim you did. I said your attitude that “they shouldn’t have applied for the show,” is like saying they shouldn’t be allowed to participate just because their religious observance might necessitate taking a few hours off over the course of nearly 4 months. The idea that someone shouldn’t even apply in such a circumstance is most certainly discriminatory, regardless whether or not you’d apply such a specious argument equally across all religions.
I didn’t call you an anti-Semite, I said the opinion you espouse comes off as, even if unintended, as anti-Semitic. And yes, Lenny’s opinion is out of line, too. Worse, even, because he should know better. Just because he chooses not to properly observe his faith doesn’t give him the right to denigrate those who do.
And just where the hell did I ever even imply such a thing, let alone state it? This is goes to precisely why your attitude is so offensive. You don’t win any points by playing the Nazi card.
And a corporate business like Trump’s is shut down on Christmas day, isn’t it? So Christians don’t have to worry about having their religious observances denigrated by being called “lazy” for wanting to practice them, do they? And this, in spite of the fact that it is, as you acknowledge, a secondary holiday to Christians, whereas it doesn’t really get any more important than the High Holy Days for Jews.
A responsible manager knows how to respect the religious practices of his employees. Anyone who criticizes his or her colleagues or subordinates for their occasional religious observances simply does not deserve a managerial position… and certainly does not deserve to become the Apprentice.
Yikes.
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Thanks again, twickster, and I apologize for shouting. While digging through 5 pages in week three is only a small hassle, if we kept this up I think it would be a bit more as the season continues. I know your heart was in the right place. 
As are my ovaries. 
I don’t think they are really on a 15 week Job interview. Unless you are willing to believe all the hyperbole comming out of The Donalds mouth. Each episode we see is over what three days? One day to get the task and plan, One day to execute the task, and One day to squirm/downday after the results when the reward/firing takes place, then the next day a new task is assigned and the process starts over. There may be some exception but that is what it looks like to.
With 16 candidates we see maybe 14 tasks at most each season so that would be 6 weeks real time and 16 weeks TV time. I don’t know what the sequestered time requirements are after the Loser hotel fills up I think the candidates are home when the seasons starts to air but have confidentiality clauses in their contracts. So 6 weeks isn’t so bad to be away, whether their job is still there for them when they are done is another question.
As to the question Raised earlier wrt the Models, they could have been used more effectivly. I would have taken each one and have them demonstrate, regurgitate one feature. “Cindy this is how the power liftgate works” “Janet I want you to memorize the Power train details V8 Xhorsepower Xtransmission and stand up at the front end next to the open hood” Etc. with others demonstrating the power folding seats and other features.
So, was it a mistake on the producers part to schedule the taping during the Jewish holidays? What’s worse is that 10 days from Rosh Hashanah is Yom Kippur which is even more holy that Rosh Hashanah. It’ll be interesting to see if the same people sit out. That would be about 3 episodes later? Or will they react to the holiday and give everyone time off?
I don’t think so. Dealing with the holidays is a real-world situation, after all.
Just to present another view, I can imagine there are a lot of Jews out there who would say that Lenny is “lazy” for not observing Rosh Hashana properly. What he said was wrong but I still have high hopes for him. (I’m an agnostic, leaning toward the Eastern beliefs, by the way.)
When Dan and Lee said they were taking two days off for Rosh Hashana, I thought that Donald would temporarily move someone from the other team over to even things out and, hopefully, he would randomly pick someone so that Brent wouldn’t automatically get sent over.
So, Theresa’s a psychotherapist. That’s odd because the way she talked in the taxi, even a five-year-old could see that she was in deep, deep,* deep* denial about how poorly she did. She apparently doesn’t understand the concept of taking responsibility for one’s actions either.
What bothered me about her was that she changed her hairstyle three times during that one task. It struck me as a bit vain, like she felt her looks took precedent over the job at hand.
If you had to live with a bunch of people who hated you, you’d probably find comfort in an old, familiar vice too. By the way, doesn’t he look like he’s lost weight, in his face at least, here?