Maybe it is meant as a demonstration of what attitude Democrats should adopt whenever they try to go on the attack, and get any pushback. Preaching to the choir is easier, no doubt, but you don’t get a lot of new converts.
I don’t see that as much of a change in attitude from 2016, though.
Regards,
Shodan
That much is true, and that includes both pushback from the ‘Pubs AND pullback from other Dems who’ll be damning you for not being pure enough.
Maybe you didn’t notice but this wasn’t a trial. It was a job interview.
In most cases, if you’re being interviewed for a job and several people show up during the interview and accuse you of committing serious felonies, you’re probably not going to get the job. At the very least, the company is going to say “We’re going to have to look into this and get back to you.”
What won’t happen? The company saying “We’re just going to ignore these allegations and immediately give you a lifetime contract.”
So in other words, you want to hold Democrats to standards that you don’t hold Republicans to.
On second thought, I can’t say I believe it was particularly clever.
No…that’s not what I’m saying at all. But sometimes you have to choose the lesser of 2 (or 3) evils.
Fortunately, my self-worth does not hinge on your endorsement or approval.
Stranger
Thank you, I was feeling burdened with the thought that I may have hurt your feelings. Keep up the good work.
Well, let’s see here…
Do I have to go over a list of the ways the modern republican party is basically founded on hypocrisy? How about that evangelical republicans have put their support fully behind a man who is in trouble for using campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star he cheated on his third wife with. Or, hell, your entire post.
As for democrats who aren’t hypocrites… Elizabeth Warren seems to have been pretty consistent in her positions, as has Bernie Sanders, but “hypocrisy” is such a broad accusation that you can find it in anyone if you look closely enough. But if you legitimately care about it, then… well, remove the beam from your eye before examining the mote in someone else’s.
Trump called for violence at his rallies. Republican statehouses have made mentioning climate change in official reports illegal. Right-wing violence from groups like the Proud Boys is on the rise, and Trump is deeply equivocal about whether or not neo-nazis are bad people.
Meanwhile, actual examples of democratic politicians “shouting down” or “physically oppressing” opinions they don’t agree with? Because I’ve literally never heard of that. I remember McConnell shouting down Warren (“And yet, she persisted”)…
I cannot name a single democrat running who wants to repeal the second amendment or does not support private gun ownership.
When people accuse you of holding democrats to a standard you don’t hold republicans to, it’s a pretty fair accusation.
This is something I’ve never really understood: Why was it so important to the GOP that Kavanaugh be confirmed? Certainly there are SCOTUS candidates who are adequately conservative and at least as qualified as Kavanaugh who would be easily confirmed. Why go all-out for the one who lied under oath? Was it just to own the libtards?
I am SO not interested in a political debate. All I will say is both sides do a lot of shitty stuff but in many cases the Democrats do less. I’m ready to vote Democrat if they would quit chipping away at the 2nd amendment. That’s just my opinion.
This shows something I believe, but seldom hear discussed. There’s all this squabbling about “there’s 100 million female voters” – “no, you lie, there aren’t that many” – etc.,etc. that makes it seem like folks believe only women were disgusted by the Kavanaugh confirmation.
This shows IMO a really low opinion of men.
The frightening thing - if my Facebook feed is any indication - is that both sides seem to think that they are the ones who are civil or have been civil, that ***they’ve ***been Mr. Nice Guy for too long, and that it’s time to take off the gloves.
Pretty sure that Kavanaugh is of the opinion, or agrees with the idea that a sitting president can’t be indited. That, would be enough for trump to want him.
Yeah, but the problem is too many people just don’t care.
My speculation is it’s the executive privilege issue. Kavanaugh has been strong on this. Trump wanted to put a justice on the court who he thinks will defend him.
Anyone with a normal appreciation for civility wouldn’t be a Trump supporter in the first place. Trump supporters have already hardened themselves to ignore normal standards and overlook horrible aspects about their leader.
So I don’t think empathy for other people is going to drive many people to turn away from Trump and his party. It has to be something that Trump supporters see as directed against them.
Male Trump voters are going to see the Trump administration attacking women and think it’s no different than seeing the Trump administration attacking Hispanics or blacks or gays or Muslims. Female Trump viewers might have been okay with seeing the Trump administration attacking Hispanics or blacks or gays or Muslims. But it will be a wake-up moment for them when they see the Trump administration attacking women.
Before anyone feels the need to point out the obvious, I realize that Donald Trump isn’t running for re-election this year. And Brett Kavanaugh will never have to run for election. But people who are angry about them will be seeking proxy targets. And the proxy targets won’t be Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby on Election Day. They’ll be angry at the political party that put Trump and Kavanaugh in power.
“appreciation for civility” was an interesting word choice for this post.
CNN - Clinton: ‘You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for’
I agree with this. But, to turn this around, the GOP is crafting the narrative of “if the Dems take control of congress, then not only will Kavanaugh be in jeopardy of impeachment, but so will Dear Leader!”. Motivation on the right is being stirred-up by perceived threats of trouble for their leaders, and taking away of their prizes (Kavanaugh, tax deal, etc.). Nobody wants to be on the losing team.
It’s going to be difficult for Democrats to start a different narrative to peel away enough voters to win elections. They need to show that supporting the conservative causes is taking things away from them, same has what the GOP is doing (“the Dems are gonna take away your guns, your freedoms, your women, your money…”). The trick - how do you convince people who care mainly about themselves and not others that they are not doing as well as they could be, and are in fact losing things, with the current administration. And then go on to show them that the other guy is better and will give them things, and they will do better with a change? That’s how the Dems are going to have to change their attitude - beat the GOP at their own game of fear mongering (even if it means lying, since these same voters clearly don’t care about truth or facts).
Basically, it comes down to: Do you want to win elections, or take the high road?
Technically true, but everyone walking into the room had already made up their minds and a single uncorroborated claim at the 11th hour reeked too much of a desperate Hail Mary to change the outcome.
My point exactly. Unfortunately.