I get that. What I don’t get is why Kavanaugh is the only judge they could find that Trump feels he can count on.
I’d like to think it’s possible to do both, but…
So start with Medicare For All – an idea which is very popular. “Democrats want to provide you with the same high-quality health care that senior citizens currently enjoy. The Republicans will tell you this isn’t affordable. Here’s how they are wrong…”
Then talk about income inequality, and how this hurts them now and will hurt their children more down the road.
And speaking of the kids, talk about realistic programs to make post-secondary education more affordable – not just college, but trade schools.
There are plenty of ways to improve the lives of the typical middle class family that the Republicans have no interest in working on.
Honestly, while the original appeal of Kavanaugh might have been his advocacy of presidential immunity, the fact that he lashed out and went on a campaign of interviews to protest how unfairly he was being treated probably made Trump feel like they were two peas in a pod. And there aren’t that many people that hang around Trump for long and even fewer that he trusts.
After all, who doesn’t like a guy who boasts in a job interview how much he loves beer, lies about terms well known to be sex acts, and tosses around conspiracy theories like he’s a Fox News contributor. I know being a Supreme Court justice is a lifetime appointment, but just in case he gets bored or impeached, I’m sure he has a place on Hannity whenever he can pull himself away from lifting weights with Squi or doing a “Devil’s Triangle” (drinking game!) with Timmy.
Stranger
Nobody on the left seems to realize that Anthony Kennedy wanted Brett Kavanaugh to replace him. That likely had more to do with why Trump picked BK than some liberal fantasy that it’s all a set up for Trump to evade justice.
I am amazed that anyone thinks the past couple of years is an example of Dems “going high” or playing nice.
Lefties could have reacted to the 2016 election with an attitude of “you win some, you lose some”. They could have acknowledged that the candidate that the DNC forced on Dem voters was really pretty shitty and corrupt, that it was an arrogant mistake to not bother campaigning in critical Midwest states, and another huge mistake to alienate Bernie supporters at the DNC convention.
They could have accepted the loss with dignity and grace.
Instead, we saw video clips of lefties screaming like lunatics at the inauguration, which is a pretty good symbol for how a lot of lefties have been acting over the last 2 years. I have followed politics for many years and I have never seen the left act as hysterical and unhinged as they have over Trump. Even the years of lefties thinking that Bush was literally Hitler weren’t this bad.
I agree with everything you wrote, but, in their defense, it’s been a rough couple of years for them. They were so sure HRC was going to win, and then she didn’t. And they really thought Trump was going to screw things up so bad that he’d be run out of town on a rail by now, and that hasn’t happened either. And now they’re getting their hopes up about the midterms and … it’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I just can’t look away.
We’re upset because we love America and we hate to see Donald Trump wrecking it.
I don’t believe the people who support Trump hate America. You just don’t understand how much damage he’s doing.
Yes, you may love to see liberal tears. But do you ever ask yourself why we’re crying? We’re crying for our country. And it’s your country too.
That is your imagination. And it will not serve you.
It’d destroy the Democrats, which I would love to see. However, you might take the whole country down with you, which I would hate to see. And if that happens, you will be held responsible.
When you think you can read someone’s mind, remember that you can’t. That’s completely in YOUR imagination.
Okay, now I’m convinced. You need to see a psychiatrist.
And you are doing the same for Republicans and independents.
“Probably”? That says it all right there. And you think WE vote for sex criminals. SMDH.
Yes, thank you, Obama, for delaying the recovery with policies that made businesses reluctant to expand!
And thank you, Hillary, for ignoring Bill’s advice to campaign in borderline states. She probably dismissed it as mansplaining. But that’s why Trump won.
What, specifically, are you crying for? What’s the “damage he’s doing”? ISIS is largely defeated, unemployment is at 3.7%, we’re negotiating with North Korea rather than watching them launch ballistic missiles over Japan, the GDP grew at 4.2% last quarter, our neighbors have agreed to replace NAFTA with the new USMCA, manufacturing jobs are on the rise, etc.
I get that you don’t like Justice Kavanaugh, and you weren’t going to like whoever President Trump picked from his list anyways, but what are the big-ticket items on your “damage” list? What have the worst effects of President Trump been, in your view?
If you can’t see it already, it’s because you don’t want to see it.
Well that was informative.
Systemic rot in virtually every aspect of the federal government, for one. The case of the Department of Energy as detailed by Vanity Fair is telling, but there’s a whole book on this that came out recently. There are important jobs that need to be done, and the Trump administration isn’t just not doing them, but is actually getting rid of people who know how to do them.
A complete loss of faith in us from our closest allies.
The global trade war, which is likely to cause a recession.
Internment camps and family separation programs.
An object lesson in how easy it is to lie constantly to the American public, and a template for any fascist who wants to take power.
There’s more, but those deserve to be mentioned. A recent survey of presidential historians were clear as well - Trump isn’t just bad, he’s literally the worst in history.
https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Greatness.pdf
Oh fuck I forgot. In the face of overwhelming evidence that we’re facing an existential catastrophe that we need to start tackling now, the leader of the free world’s response is to say that said catastrophe isn’t real.
Y’know what the best part about this is? This kind of rot, the kind where things slowly corrode in the background, is incredibly harmful… But also hard to track. It’s entirely possible that nothing goes horribly wrong during the Trump administration, and that signs of the rot don’t show until years down the line, when work that should have been done by the Department of Energy or Department of Commerce wasn’t done and something goes horribly, horribly wrong. So it’s entirely possible that Trump coasts on the work Obama did for his entire tenure as president, loses in 2020, and then things go to shit and his successor gets blamed for it. Hell, Ditka, you’re already attributing the good economy to Trump, even though there really hasn’t been a “Trump Bump” anywhere in the economy, and there’s good reason to be worried we’re heading for a recession specifically because of his policies:
“Yes, we are at full employment, but we are still seeing wage stagnation,” said Aparna Mathur, a resident scholar in economics at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, in the Post report.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, various industry groups, and the Federal Reserve have all pointed to Trump’s threatened trade war for creating uncertainty among business who are increasingly using their tax cuts not to hire workers but to buy back their own stock and increase dividends to shareholders.
So yeah, if things go to shit slowly, I guarantee that republicans will not be blaming Trump for it.
As mentioned, I don’t think this is a change in attitude. It does not appear that Democrats have any response when people push back.
“Trump sux and everything is bad because of it”.
“The economy is doing well, trade is doing well, unemployment is doing well, manufacturing jobs are doing well.”
“No, they aren’t, and besides it’s because of Obama.”
“Kavanaugh is a liar and a sex criminal.”
“No, he isn’t - the lying part is just spin and misinterpretation, and Ford’s charges have no substantiation.”
“You are just willfully blind.”
:shrugs:
Democrats might take over the House - usually President lose seats there in mid-term elections. They will not take over the Senate - the GOP is likely to gain there. And I estimate the odds of Trump’s re-election in 2020 as better than 50-50. Based in large part on what attitude the Dems seem to be adopting.
Regards,
Shodan
Yeah, it’s not like I just dedicated two and a half posts to a response to such pushback… :rolleyes:
You are not Little Nemo.
The information has been put out. Way too much for anyone to have simply missed it. Anybody who is still ignorant has made a choice to ignore the facts.
So what point is there in me repeating them once again? I’m not so arrogant that I believe people will listen to me when they’re ignoring everyone else. I’d just be wasting my time.
I’d rather spend my efforts working around these people than trying to win them over. And, to get back on topic, that’s the attitude the Democratic party needs to adopt.
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama tried to be nice to those people and it didn’t work. We need to start treating the Republicans like what they are; opposition. We need to start drawing lines between them and us and telling people to choose which side they’re on.
Democrats need to stick to their core principles. Democrats need to oppose Republicans in every way short of breaking the law. And Democrats need to stop Republicans when they break the law. Do those three things and we will win.
There’s also the breakdown in the rule of law. You have a President who acts like it’s okay for him to break the law. He openly threatens his political opponents with imprisonment and violence and then says “Ha ha, I’m not actually going to do that. For now. I’m just putting it out there to get people used to the idea.”
It’s the same as how Trump is always attacking democracies in other countries and telling everyone how much he admires dictators. We have never had a President doing that before.
We have a President who is redefining free speech. He is simultaneously saying that messages he agrees with should be supported while he calls for controls on messages he doesn’t like.
We have a party that is attacking democracy itself. They want to control elections so they can determine who gets to vote and who gets to win.
We have a society that is being split into those on the inside and those on the outside. And the people being put on the outside are seeing their rights disappear.
And, oh yes, the economy. We have an economy where middle class people are sinking into poverty and poor people are becoming poorer. And rich people are becoming richer. And we’re being told that as long as the rich people are doing well, the economy is great.
Finally, we have a growing number of people who are being trained to be followers. To not think for themselves but to just listen to their leader and agree with whatever he says.
Not an actual quote, correct? Just something you imagined he said? If I’m wrong, then cite please.
“always attacking democracies in other countries”? He has attacked the dictator in Syria, and ISIS. He authorized bombing an Al-Shabaab camp in Somalia. I’m not aware of him “attacking” any democracies in other countries, let alone “always”.
If I didn’t know better, I would have guessed that you were referring to Clinton and the “Fairness Doctrine”.
I assume you’re referring to Mr. Kemp’s party and excluding Mr. Day’s party, but I don’t understand the rationale for that hair-splitting.
Without more specifics, I’d just be guessing at what you’re alluding to here.
Your countrymen don’t seem to agree with you:
Like this? Or did you have something else in mind?