The Banning of Shodan

I’ll let Colibri weigh in on that one, though they’ve been extirpated throughout most of their former range in the zones he’s most familiar with (tropical lowlands from Petén through Muskitia and, sporadically, onward into Darién).

Cunt good!

Harpy bad!

They are beautiful birds.

Looking at Shodan’s entire record, I can see that he’s got a history and he’s been given a lot of rope. I understand the banning.

On a personal note, he’s been part of the fabric of this place for so long that he leaves a hole. It’s a bit like not having drunk uncle at the holiday party. It’s a relief and yet you notice his absence. Unfortunately, he had clearly become a bitter, angry, racist, misogynistic poster. If there was any way to fix that, I would welcome him back. Topic bans plus forum bans?

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I don’t know all the history here? Who was he racist against?

This is an issue yeah, long time posters that are active a lot should be given a bit more consideration. I would almost say that you might want to look at the percentage of posts that is deemed problematic, than just time…

Then we probably still would have people like Dio and budget player cadet. Which would make this a much more interesting place.

Banning is the nuclear option on a forum. Mods here seem to think it is part of the logical continuum of being An active poster.

For what it’s worth, I have a very low opinion about the mods here. They pretty much admitted in this thread that they don’t feel like reading the forum…so reporting makes bans happen.

Which brings us to the current situation where people like mr dibble and iiandii just follow people they disagree with and report them until they are banned.

When I came here first, it was to see the crazy right wing opinions from the US (in discussion with more reasonable opinions)… that has really changed. (And not because right wing opinions have become any more reasonable).

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Cite? Are you just making wild, baseless accusations against posters you don’t like? Unless you’re a mod, you couldn’t possibly know whether this is so (it’s not, but the way).

You have no idea who all I report, or why. But suffice to say “follow people I disagree with” is not it. I certainly didn’t report Shodan’s post, because I never even saw it (or read the thread) until **Shodan **was banned and it was linked.

TPTB do, eventually, look at the percentage. Did you not notice how long it took to get rid of Starving Artist?

There are a lot things on this forum I may have never seen, let alone been able to report, if it hadn’t been for this thread and the cunt thread. Where’s the blue pill?

So, we’re going with the that’s not what was said at all definition of pretty much admitted here?

CMC fnord!

For me it’s “The Farmer in the Dell.”

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k9bfriender’s response to you was pertinent:

I would add only that your post demonstrated that you’d failed to read the post to which you were replying. If you had done so, you’d have seen that the parallel you made between the N-word and “harpy” simply doesn’t hold up, because as noted here, “harpy”–unlike the N-word–can be an appropriate term to use in context.

There is a very big difference there. I’m sorry you can’t see it.

Call someone a nigger, it implies that there is something wrong with the skin they were born in. It is an insult to every person with that same skin colour.

Call someone a harpy, it implies that there is something wrong with the personality and behaviour of that specific individual. It insults that specific person, and nobody else.

Shodan said that this particular woman is one who attacks people viciously or unfairly. That does not insult one single other person.

If anyone who was banned, but no one noticed, reads this thread I hope they appreciate how things worked out in their case.

Your claim is incorrect. Exactly the opposite is the case. Therefore your conclusions make no sense.

Shodan’s post–his first in the thread–is copied here. (As has been noted the thread is locked, so I can’t link to it in the normal fashion.)

https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=22300829#post22300829

Shodan posts nothing that could be construed as a claim that the woman he was excoriating as a “harpy” had attacked anyone. (Let alone that such attacks had been accomplished “viciously or unfairly”).

^He may have been going for an amusing alliteration. A number of posters probably did not see it for an obvious reason. But, given his previous infractions and behavior on this site, he would have been very well-advised to choose his words extremely carefully and not use something that can only apply to a particular class of people. Seriously, have you ever heard “harpy” used to refer to a male? If so, find; however, I never have that I can recall. The alliteration was obviously intended as an insult, so he should have been way more careful than before.

Irrelevant.

Calling someone a harpy attacks that specific individual, and nobody else. It does not matter if the attack is true, or deserved. Even if untrue, it still attacks one specific individual.

I have no idea who this person is, or whether the insult was deserved or not. I only comment on how it applies to board rules. Deserved, or undeserved, it attacks one person who is probably not a member of this message board, and does not apply to one single other person.

Did he say this in a PM to you? Would you mind sharing it with us?

So it’s impossible that gender-specific derogations have anything to do with a society that has for millennia systematically subjected a particular gender to disadvantages in almost every single aspect of life?

It’s impossible that a series of stereotyped insults can function as components of that systematic oppression?