"The beating COULD be racially motivated." - I'm over the double-race standard in America.

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This site seems to have a ton of links, but is clearly a fucking wacko white supremacist website, what with the polar bears and stuff. The fact that when you google the famous “white people are 50% more likely to be the victims of blacks in violent crimes” it’s the first 50 hits that comes up kind of proves my point about the state of discourse. Why should you have to go to a fucking stormfront-type website to get this news?!

And you trust this cite to have the facts correct why, exactly? :dubious:

Whites are more likely to be victimized by whites, and black as are more likely to be victimized by blacks. Everybody is more likely to be victimized by poor people, and blacks ar more likely to be poor.

What is your ultimate point anyway? what, in your mind, is the cause of this alleged “black on white crime” problem.

I think we can all agree with that.

That’s not a famous quote, as far as I’m aware- and the fact that you can only find it on white supremacist websites should tell you something completely different from what you seem to think it’s telling you.

Incidentally, if these kids are facing criminal charges for the assault (and they certainly fucking ought to be), they’ll get significantly more severe sentences for beating up a white kid than they would have for beating up other black kids- or if they were white.

We should probably start having the white kids and black kids ride different buses.

Maybe even to different schools.

Never mind.

Because only racists think it’s actually true, you dingleberry.

Yeah, it’s not possible that the kid getting waled on just happens to be one of those kids who always gets waled on. It MUST be the color of his skin.

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You know, it’s a funny thing: I was trying to prove that the Holocaust never happened, and I ran into exactly the same problem! And it happened again when I was looking for proof that all homosexuals are really child molesters! And you wouldn’t believe the sort of sites that came up when I was looking for proof that the Catholic mass is really a devil-worshiping ceremony! What does it say about the state of the state of the discourse when you have to go to Jack Chick, of all people, for proof that the communion wafer is really a death cookie?

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Here is a better source if you are interested in looking up crime statistics by race:

In 2005, for instance, 17.7% of all stranger homicides were black on white; 4.5% of all stranger homicides were white on black.
In round numbers, there are about 5 times as many whites as blacks, so this does in fact, show quite a disproportionate ratio.

Not disproportionate at all. Whites comprise a much larger victim pool.

Is it your position that these statistics demonstrate that there is ‘a serious, unacknowledged black-on-white crime problem, the likes of which would be called “hate crime” or “race crime” if it were reversed.’?

Yes, but they’re also a smaller attacker pool. Still, the disparity is much more readily explained by socioeconomic status than anything else. Asians are victimized as often as white people but are perpetrators less often.

ETA: That “yes, but…” was in response to Dio, not Jimmy Chitwood.

You know, I don’t believe this was racially motivated. But I do believe this, if this were white kids beating on a black we’d have far more Dopers posting that it was a racist attack, on exactly the same evidence.

We often see what we want to see.

If it was white kids beating up a black kid, I doubt it would ever have made the papers… but you’re probably right insofar as our likely response.

Well, now we know more. It’s Obama’s fault.

Limbaugh: “*n Obama’s America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering”

…and blacks comprise a much smaller perpetrator pool. Well?