The blind, fanatical nature of support for Israel

[Shodan]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

Yes, but Shodan specifically said Hamas.

Not me - my cite -

The Hamas authorities, who control Gaza, have accused nearly all the condemned men of “treason and collaborating with Israel”. Another seven Palestinians have been sentenced to death in absentia.

Hamas-run military courts in Gaza sentenced 16 people to death in 2009 and 2010. Eight of these were convicted of treason. A Hamas civilian court sentenced one person to death during that period.

Like I said, it never seems to do any good.

Regards,
Shodan

[BrainGlutton]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

Incidentally, would Israel even allow the Palestinian Authority to try anyone accused of anti-Israeli terrorism?

It would, perforce, in the Gaza Strip, where Israel has no civil officials or troop presence on the ground, and which it no longer even claims as occupied territory.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Shodan

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

Yes, but Shodan specifically said Hamas.

Not me - my cite -

The Hamas authorities, who control Gaza, have accused nearly all the condemned men of “treason and collaborating with Israel”. Another seven Palestinians have been sentenced to death in absentia.

Hamas-run military courts in Gaza sentenced 16 people to death in 2009 and 2010. Eight of these were convicted of treason. A Hamas civilian court sentenced one person to death during that period.

Like I said, it never seems to do any good.

It’s the Palestinian Authority, not Hamas. Hamas is just the party that controls it, like the Democrats in the US control Congress. Hamas does not have a court system. The Palestinian Authority has a court system.

[Alessan]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

@Shodan

Not me - my cite -
Like I said, it never seems to do any good.

It’s the Palestinian Authority, not Hamas. Hamas is just the party that controls it, like the Democrats in the US control Congress. Hamas does not have a court system. The Palestinian Authority has a court system.

Sorry, Dio, that’s like saying that in the Soviet Union., the Communists did not have a court system. In any one-party rule - like Hamas in Gaza or Fatah in the West Bank - there is no real distinction between the party and the public institutions in controls.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

I beg to differ, Hamas was democratically elected.

[Alessan]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

I beg to differ, Hamas was democratically elected.

Hamas received a majority of the seats in the **legislative **branch of a presidential (not parliamentary) system. It seized control of the **executive **branch in Gaza illegally, by force, and outlawed all other political parties. That meets no definition of democracy I’ve ever heard of.

That’s like the Republicans taking control of the House next month, and then raising an army, seizing control of the White House and outlawing the Democratic Party. Would you consider that legitimate?

[BrainGlutton]

@Alessan

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

I beg to differ, Hamas was democratically elected.

Hamas received a majority of the seats in the **legislative **branch of a presidential (not parliamentary) system. It seized control of the **executive **branch in Gaza illegally, by force, and outlawed all other political parties. That meets no definition of democracy I’ve ever heard of.

That’s like the Republicans taking control of the House next month, and then raising an army, seizing control of the White House and outlawing the Democratic Party. Would you consider that legitimate?

There’s them as would . . .

[Damuri_Ajashi]

@BrainGlutton

@Alessan

So I guess “Musselman” and “Mohammedean” are right out?

What ever happened to “Saracen”?

Moor?

[Alessan]

@BrainGlutton

@Alessan

Hamas received a majority of the seats in the **legislative **branch of a presidential (not parliamentary) system. It seized control of the **executive **branch in Gaza illegally, by force, and outlawed all other political parties. That meets no definition of democracy I’ve ever heard of.

That’s like the Republicans taking control of the House next month, and then raising an army, seizing control of the White House and outlawing the Democratic Party. Would you consider that legitimate?

There’s them as would . . .

And then claim to be democratically elected.

[yoyodyne]

@Alessan

Sorry, Dio, that’s like saying that in the Soviet Union., the Communists did not have a court system. In any one-party rule - like Hamas in Gaza or Fatah in the West Bank - there is no real distinction between the party and the public institutions in controls.

Hey, Dio’s the Expert. Where do you get off thinking you know more about the situation than he does?

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Alessan

@BrainGlutton

There’s them as would . . .

And then claim to be democratically elected.

And then get a surprising number of credulous foreigners to play along.

[Mosier]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

So they don’t have court systems.

Hamas doesn’t have a court system? Didn’t they get elected, or something?

[Dick_Dastardly]

@Alessan

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

I beg to differ, Hamas was democratically elected.

Hamas received a majority of the seats in the **legislative **branch of a presidential (not parliamentary) system. It seized control of the **executive **branch in Gaza illegally, by force, and outlawed all other political parties. That meets no definition of democracy I’ve ever heard of.

That’s like the Republicans taking control of the House next month, and then raising an army, seizing control of the White House and outlawing the Democratic Party. Would you consider that legitimate?

And Abbas’ Presidential term expired nearly two years ago. He’s refusing to hold a new election because Hamas would win the Presidential election too. The only people with any democratic mandate whatsoever are Hamas.

[Alessan]

@Dick_Dastardly

And Abbas’ Presidential term expired nearly two years ago. He’s refusing to hold a new election because Hamas would win the Presidential election too. The only people with any democratic mandate whatsoever are Hamas.

Since the elections took place in early 2006, I’m pretty sure that their term limits have run out, too.

[Dick_Dastardly]

@Alessan

@Dick_Dastardly

And Abbas’ Presidential term expired nearly two years ago. He’s refusing to hold a new election because Hamas would win the Presidential election too. The only people with any democratic mandate whatsoever are Hamas.

Since the elections took place in early 2006, I’m pretty sure that their term limits have run out, too.

There’s a Presidential term limit, now expired, but as far as the parliament goes it needs the PA to hold new elections, something the PA refuses to do for the samje reason they won’t hold a Presidential election.