As soon as the funding comes through, which should be any day now.
Down from 6 to 3? Those Kremlin budget cuts are a bitch…
Could South Carolina be whittled down until it was no longer too large to be an insane asylum?
Does the Constitution have a provision for this? I would think that a state breaking up would simply revert to a territory and then the individual governments could petition to be admitted as new states
If that’s how it worked, we could have avoided that whole Civil War thing.
I don’t know if adaher is correct (I think not), but territories are still part of the country, so it would not have averted the whole Civil War thing. Imagine Puerto Rico declaring independence. No bueno.
I think the general idea would have to be parts of California are seceding from the state and joining the union as new states. The Constitution does speak to it:
Maine was created this way, seceding from Massachusetts.
I’m fine with it if we could get rid of the Trumpista DA and Sheriff.
My take on it is that I hope they spend all of the money they can get from like-minded idiots on the idea, only to see it sink like lead. Hey, the money would be wasted, but better that than that it should stay in the hands of who’s got it now.
Tim Draper is giving up on his dream.
If “the political environment for radical change is right now”, why is he giving up? 
His assertion, as I understand it, is that, if he cannot have his initiative on this fall’s ballot, then the political environment won’t be right by the time the next available election for having it comes around (2020, I believe).
I personally think it means he’s just not going to continue to throw money down a rabbit hole. :dubious:
Oh yeah; I get it. I know it’s hard to convey but my query was sarcastic, plus I love encouraging futile efforts and gestures, depending on who is making them.
If CA is “ungovernable”, maybe we need more ungovernable states. But I don’t mind getting the word out. Don’t come here. It’s an ungovernable land!! 
I find it funny that California is “ungovernable”, but Texas is somehow just fine… :rolleyes:
Over the recent one-year period California had only fourth-best per capita GDP growth among the 50 states. Who would want to move to such a dismal struggling state? (In defense of California, the top two states in per capita GDP growth—West Virginia and Wyoming—had lower GDP growth than California but sharp reductions in capita. Wealthy coal-miners retiring to the Caribbean?)
California is one of 22 states where residents do not have the Right-to-Work™. California is one of 9 states which have legalized recreational reefer madness, the gateway to gaiety and mirth. California gave 61.7% of its 2016 popular vote to the Witch of Benghazi who would have filled the White House with sycophants, swindlers and liars. Among the 50 states, only Hawaii—another Reefer madness state without the Right-to-Work™—gave the Witch a higher percentage. Don’t worry, John; who would want to move to California?
Note the contrast between struggling California and a top-tier state like Oklahoma, which gave 65.3% of its popular vote to the Great Man now cleaning out the swamp in Washington, is a breeding ground for top statesmen like Scott Pruitt, has a whopping 0.3% per capita GDP growth and where residents do have the Right-to-Work™. (I note that Oklahoma legalized medical marijuana a few weeks ago. :eek: Are they now also on the road to Hell?)
(* - Note: Right-to-Work™ may be a registered trademark of the of the Koch-backed National Right to Work™ Committee, headed by a former leader of the John Birch Society.)
It’s a terrible, terrible place. Fires everywhere. Earthquakes when you least expect them. Aging hippies and crazy liberals. Sky-high real estate prices and lots of brown people. DO NOT COME HERE. You will HATE it. I’d leave if I could, but I’m stuck.
Wait a moment. Your new avatar clicked a bell. Did I see you on Telegraph Avenue in the 1960’s? Or maybe it was in that park between Haste and Dwight?
In fact, wasn’t it you I saw trying to flirt with Grace Slick in Altadena 1969? 
It used to be if you asked a resident of Long Beach where “he-MEN-o” (Ximeno) Avenue was, they’d look at you like you came from Mars. If you pronounced it “properly” as “ex-IM-en-o,” they’d answer, “Oh yeah, just a couple blocks west of PCH.”
:rolleyes:
Whether or not the federal government needs to approve of the separation, the purpose of the ballot initiative is give a voice to the people of California, and pressure politicians to start making moves. Of course I don’t think the majority of California voters want this, so maybe it is a waste of time. Having an official tally would be interesting, though.
Even the State of Jefferson crazies were opposed to it, because they were getting lumped in with the Bay Area.