The Closer Season Finale Tonight!

TNT is showing all 12 episodes, so you can get caught up before the finale at 9pm Eastern.

I didn’t catch this show last year, but they hooked me with a Season 1 marathon at the beginning of the summer and now my daughter and I are hooked.

A worthwhile watch – definitely one of the better cop shows out there today.

I like it too, but I’m late to it – just started watching a few weeks ago. Does Brenda have an epiphany in every episode? In the ones I’ve seen, someone makes an offhand comment unrelated to the crime, and a light bulb goes off over Brenda’s head, leading her to the killer. I like watching for the epiphany.

Kyra Sedgwick’s not Southern, is she? Her accent is like nothing I’ve heard from real Southerners. Her “thank yew” reminds me of Richardson on Deadwood.

I haven’t noticed that every episode. Sometimes she puts the pieces together on her own, like last year, she figured out why a man wanted three hours before he surrendered himself. Turns out he was using that time to get his son, the real killer, down to Mexico.

If I’m not mistaken, this is a fairly recent thing. At least, if they did this last season, they didn’t make it quite as obvious. Now, my wife and I specifically wait for the “Ding!” moment.

Still a fun show.

In the episodes I’ve seen, the criminals are a bit more interesting than the ones on other cop shows. Maybe “interesting” isn’t the right word – they’re certainly more deviant and cold-blooded. I’m thinking especially of the guy who tied his wife and daughter together and drowned them. The show has some nice twists.

New episodes in December! We won’t have to wait until next summer!

I liked the twist. Unlike Law and Order, where it seems half the FBI agents are corrupt, it turns out Hecht was being played by the mob guy, that he wasn’t in cahoots with him.

I liked seeing Brenda and Fritz working together, and how she stares down the FBI at the crime scene. Is that possible IRL, that a chief of police can order around FBI agents on what they will and will not do?

Well, you’re in my building, surrounded by 1000 cops, get used to it.

This episode had one of the better twists in recent memory… and I finally liked Pope… he grew a set.

Still…doesn’t a call from the FBI Director the the governor trump what the LAPD chief wants to do?

Well, apparetnly that call never happened, and there was some jurisdictional issues anyway… I really don’t care ‘how’ it would really work, I liked the way they played it out… strong writing and interplay in this one.

I really liked that the episode didn’t end on a cliffhanger, with a major character being shot and maybe dying, maybe not. The back and forth with Hecht and the mob guy was too quick for me, good thing Brenda was there to figure it out.

One thing I like about the show is that Kyra Sedgwick makes Brenda smart – you get the feeling that the character really is that bright, that it’s not just an actress delivering lines. It wouldn’t work with Paris Hilton in the part.

I’m sorta surprised that Fritz doesn’t seem to be bothered or threatened by Brenda taking charge.

I kind of get the feeling he’s just along for the ride most of the time. He loves her, and overcame her reservations about moving in together with “If I was going to stop liking you, I would have done it by now” and he knows she’s nuts in her personal life but a shark when it comes to cop work. I also think he likes to stand back and watch her work/go crazy.

I missed season one…what’s the connection between her and Gabriel? She seems to consider him her favorite ("I have half of dozen of everyone else, but only one of you) and I’d like to know how that dynamic came about.

I’m not sure, but I think because Gabriel is the junior of all the detectives on the squad, he kind of became her “personal-assistant” type partner. At the beginning, most of the other detectives resented Brenda Lee’s presence as an outsider, especially the guy played by Tony Dennison (can’t remember the character’s name). Eventually, she won them over, but I seem to remember she always had a closer relationship with Gabriel, kind of like a mentor thing.

My wife watches The Closer, and loves it. I can’t stand it.

Every episode I’ve watched, I just want to punch Brenda in the face. There was one episode where she kinda suspected that the husband (who didn’t know about his wife’s murder) might actually be the person responsible for her death… so instead of telling him his wife was dead, she started questioning him out to see if he was the murderer. When she finally told him, he was (justifiably) furious. I would’ve been, too, and would’ve probably been arrested after I choked the living crap out of Brenda.

I have to leave the room every time she gets to interrogate the suspects without the suspect’s lawyers being present. Sure, I know, it’s fairly standard for TV crime dramas to do that… but it still pisses me off. How many of her confessions would be overturned in real life?

It’s my understanding, from my vast experience of watching crime dramas on TV :wink: that if you are not under arrest, the police can question you without a lawyer. The reasoning is you can end the questioning at any time and leave, whereas if you were under arrest you can’t.

Now, I have seen Brenda urge suspects to waive their right to counsel, with some threat about “I won’t be able to help you out if you call a lawyer” and I wonder how legit a confession would be at that point.

Any Prosecutor Dopers want to weigh in here? If the police question someone who is not under arrest, and then use what that person says to build a case against them and subsequently arrest them, is that permissible in court?