The Cosmos is All.

Had not all the world’s history and knowledge in the Royal Alexandrian Library not been lost, I am convinced that a detailed account of visits from space people would have been found there. Unfortunately these manuscripts are lost to us forever so that we are now saddled with an account of ancient history that has been foisted upon us by a church that denounced any scientific theory on the Universe as “dangerous to the faith.”

Even so, there are still writings about these visitors from space which make sense to the “enlightened” among us. Of course it is impossible to convince the majority of earthlings of this simply because, although about 55% of the world’s population is educated, our education systems teach from the books and writings I mentioned earlier.

So where are these eye witness accounts of alien visitations? Well for a start, the Christian bible is packed with references to them. And no, I’m not going to mention a single instance and this is why. Earthlings who believe in the biblical god and in the writings of the ancients that were later edited and compiled into book form by the church, are usually unable to “read between the lines” so to speak.

To the average “born again” or other Christian, if it’s in the bible its gospel. (No pun intended!) So when they read that some guy, (women are mostly invisible in the bible), “ascended to heaven in a chariot and horses of fire” in their mind’s eye they picture a “Ben Hur” type Roman chariot that’s on fire flying up into the sky.

Now I and other earthlings of a similar viewpoint read this and we look at it from another perspective. We go: “Okay, this description was no doubt written after the event that could have gone something like this …”

It’s a Sunday afternoon in Israel and two friends Shep, a sheep herder and Cy, a scribe are having a barbeque. Their wives Rachel and Hannah in inside the single story tent warming barley bread and making an olive, cheese and watercress salad. Outside Shep and Cy are standing around the fire grilling half a sheep and drinking wine.

Cy: “Hey Shep, you remember that chap Eli?
Shep: Yeah … nice friendly guy. Never has much to say. He’s real friendly with those foreigners.
Cy: The same. Well he’s gone you know. Taken.
Shep: Who took him? The cops?
Cy: No them … the foreigners. Some say they’re gods you know.
Shep: So tell me, what happened?
Cy: I spoke to Josh at the market yesterday and he told me. You know him?
Shep: Yeah he’s married to fat Benji’s sister. Plays the ram’s horn at the club on Saturday night. Knows all the gossip. So what he say about Eli then?
Cy: Well they took Eli away in that big plate shaped flying thing … the silver one they came here with last year.
Shep: Awesome man! The noisy thing that spits fire and smoke. So where’d they take Eli then?
Cy: Away … up there into the sky.
Shep: Wow! Cool. Pour us some more wine before the women come outside …

The next day Cy the scribe decides to write an account of what Shep told him last
night. He had quite a bit of wine to drink but he thinks he can remember everything.

Cy goes: “And Shep said that Josh told him Eli was taken up into heaven in a fiery chariot to live with the gods.

Personally I find this quite easy to believe, but then I just wrote it! Anyway, what we need to bear in mind is that the ancients knew little or nothing about our Universe. In fact the average pre-high school child today knows more about it than the wisest man who ever lived thousands of years ago did. So to anyone witnessing a space craft landing or taking off at that time, they would refer to it by the name of the only vehicle they knew … a chariot.

Unfortunately not many earthlings are able to accept this theory and so because “the bible says so … it is so.”

And here endeth the first lesson … or words to that effect.

The library didn’t just burn up. All the worlds history and knowledge was not lost. Still no aliens.

Welcome to the SDMB.

Cite?

I am having trouble following you. The ancients were dumb because they thought people were taken up into heaven, but now that we are well educated, we should believe they were actually kidnapped by space aliens.

Uh huh.

Enjoy your stay among us, for as long as it lasts.

Regards,
Shodan

What happened to the library?

Rehashed Erich von Däniken?
I had suspicions when you declared in another thread your belief that blood pressure standards were part of a “Big Pharma” plot, and this evidence-less flight of fancy confirms those suspicions.

I like this.

Moby Dick is also packed with references to aliens, but I’m not going to list any, because you refuse to read between the lines.

You misquote me Shodan. Nowhere did I state the “the ancients were dumb because they thought people were taken into heaven.” I simply said that as they had no knowledge of space travel, they assumed that anything in which their fellow humans travelled was a chariot.

Incidentally, why this remark: “Enjoy your stay among us, for as long as it lasts.”

Are you expecting me to leave or be banned?

Well I guess that a veteran of 50 something K posts has earned the right to their opinion.

Take care now and have an awesome day!

Ah citizen Manson! Perhaps you should have chosen War & Peace as an example instead of Moby Dick cos the former is almost as long as the bible. Oh and incidentally, the three books mentioned are all works of fiction anyway.

Here’s a quote you might want to consider: “Everybody has opinions: I have them, you have them. And we are all told from the moment we open our eyes, that everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. Well, that’s horsepuckey, of course. We are not entitled to our opinions; we are entitled to our informed opinions. Without research, without background, without understanding, it’s nothing. It’s just bibble-babble. It’s like a fart in a wind tunnel, folks.” -Harlan Ellison

We already did the alien thing here. That didn’t go well either.

Whoop …there it is.
Dude, thete ain’t no aliens. There also are no Bigfoot( Bigfeets?) Loch Ness creature or tiny Elephants. My Cite, you ask? Um? Don’t got any. Except there are none and there is no credible evidence that there is. Hairbrained theories about “Space People” is gonna get you laughed at and ridiculed. You’re gonna miss out on living your life. I wouldn’t go there. Man, I had high hopes for you. The board needs new members. Oh well. See ya.

Okay it didn’t go well. Cool. But we all have the right to our beliefs.


While estimates among different experts vary, an acceptable range is that there are between 100 billion and 200 billion galaxies and counting in the universe.:eek:

Hairbrained theories about “Space People???.”

I dont think so bro.:smiley:

Rehashed beliefs from over 50 years ago- “Chariots Of The Gods” by Erich von Däniken(1968). He at least faked up a bunch of “evidence” to support his woo.

And which part of our modern understanding, not available to the ancients, shows us that it was actually flying saucers? As opposed to, say, a unicycle, Lamborghini, or pogo stick? I’ve seen all of those, but never a flying saucer.

YMMV, especially when traveling inter-galactically.

Regards,
Shodan

Using that logic, I guess one could support the idea that leprechauns, unicorns, pookas and the like have a good possibility of existing.

“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”

– The Dude

If the Bible is a work of fiction, how can you use it to prove that the people in the Bible saw aliens? :dubious:

When you consider the possibilities and ignore the probabilities, almost anything can happen!